Sid, It is where you are with a program, not where you've been! How many of those Colorado championships occurred while Colorado was in the BIG 12--before Oklahoma State, Kansas State, Texas Tech, Baylor, even Iowa State surpassed Colorado across the board, program for program; not just football? Colorado will be the same butt in the PAC as it has been in the Big 12. Check out Rivals rating of football recruiting for 2009. Colorado in the bottom 40 in recruiting and Baylor is in the top 40 among BCS programs. There is a reason. And then take a look at women's programs. I think it is clear for even the blind to see that Baylor has run far ahead of anything Colorado has done in women's programs ongoing. What is really sad is that Colorado has access to vast Colorado taxpayer funding and federal money while Baylor does it the old fashion American way--with private money, not state or federal money!

This is about football. NCAA sports is football. March Madness is cool but it can't beat football. Baylor's football program is terrible and will be for the foreseeable future. How many times was CU's last winning record posted in this paper? When was the last time Baylor had more than five wins? And if there were five wins, how many were against the likes of Sam Houston or Samford? Face it Bears, you only got in the Big 12 because of AR. Stop whining like my kid brother who didn't get to go everywhere I did. Cherish the time that you had and welcome back reality.

Other possibility would be to ref-form SWC and bring in LSU and U of Arkansas from SE conference with OU and OSU. Let KU and KSU go to Big 10.

Have to aggree for the most part with the other Jim that posted earlier. Reform the old SWC (UT, A&M, Houston, Rice, SMU, TCU, Baylor, TT) with additions of OU, OSU, KU, and KSU. Let UN, Mizzou, and ISU go to Big 10 and CU to Pac 10. Probably wishful thinking but thats how I'd realign.

Robert Griffins decision to play football at BU is even getting worse. If he does not get hurt again, he will play his senior season in some conf resembling the old SWC.

I think Texas, Baylor, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, SMU, Houston and TCU should form thier own Conference of Texas schools. Lets get real Texas is a football hot bed. All of the colleges come here to recruit the High School players.

Having been to all of the PAC10 schools ROTC is alive and well and military recruiting does exist. I do agree that Baylor's conservative nature does not align with the Pacific 10. I guess my question why would anyone care what do in their houses as long as no crimes are being committed. Moreover is Baylor a huge research based instution?

The Denver TV market--with geographic continuity from Texas to the Rockies to Arizona and the coast is CU's biggest plus. However "elite" academic administrators at Cal, Stanford, USC/UCLA should clearly see BU as a far superior fit, punctuated by yesterday's CU NCAA sanctions. Why not another private school to complement USC--yes USC? BU's alumni,fans and Texas influence is heavily concentrated in D/FW and Hou--the two (Pac/B12) TV markets ranked right below LA. (Bay Area now progressively smaller than D/FW.) HOWEVER--with BU's Texas politics strategy--why has no one asked WHY OKLA STATE? OSU (like Tech) is not a Tier One academic college--and, talk about an ISOLATED locale--TV market and fan base. The "take ALL Texas teams" angle leaves OSU as a logical target opttion to CU. I doubt the Sooners or Horns will mount much defense for their Stillwater cousins; but, watch out for T Boone. Hopefully BU decision makers have their pitch perfected for an OSU eleventh hour end run!

If the PAC 10 is intent on taking Tech and Oklahoma State, then it cannot be stated that it is an "academic oriented conference", John. They'll have more tier 3 universities than any other BCS-AQ conference in the nation.

This isn't about athletic performance. It's about money and TV contracts. Baylor is a small school in a big pond. Now it has to find another pond. Pac 10 won't take the Bears.

The New Big 12 Baylor Kansas TCU Kansas State . Houston Iowa State . SMU Missouri Rice Utah Air Force BYU

If you have ever been to Boulder, and I have, this is one of the most liberal schools and areas in the nation. Texas and Colorado have professors that are blatantly anti american and anti capitalism which fits directly in line with the core belief system of the power base PAC 10 elitist. Baylor and our community are conservative and proudly so, and I hope we never sell out our values for the prosperity of money that will come with alligning ourselves with colleges such as these. I am interested to see how Texas A & M will be treated in this new conference. They will be a total fish out of water ultra conservative alligned with the military school in an anti American anti establishment, ubber liberal conference. Some of the schools in the PAC 10 do not even allow military recruiters on campus. This should be very interesting indeed.

Unfortunately, Baylor will be on the outside. The Legislature won't help - the state has no money to leverage anything with. Baylor needs to hug some Horned Frogs and get moving. That pain's my Aggie heart, as I have no rivalry, save one, that is as much fun!

Baylor should get ready for the fall that is coming. After the SWC breakup and all that came with it, they will not have many friends/allies in the MWC (TCU) or CUSA (SMU, Rice, and UH). Think Sun Belt Baylor fans.

the total sports argument is totally irrelevent. Womens tennis? Might as well argue that Baylor's swell uniforms are an issue. This is about only one...football. And Colorado wins that one. Academics is a jump ball, and this is entirely about total school, not grades of the athletes. One factor being overlooked is culture. The Pac-10 schools are in places like Berkeley and Seattle, and Baylor discrimination against gay students just won't work in that culture. They never should have put this bigotry into a University, and to be taken seriously as an academic institution that policy will have to change.

this should decide this question, would you rather visit Waco or Boulder for a weekend trip. I wasn't impressed by the elite cafe or the Dr Pepper tour.

Can we take away the 16 national championships that Colorado has for skiing from this argument? I mean, skiing, for real?

Colorado has 22 national championships, including one in football. Baylor can't match that. CU's football program is at a historic low, and is still better than Baylor. This column is ridiculous.