Baylor excited about scheduling in new-look Big 12

By John Werner and Mike Copeland Tribune-Herald staff writers

Sunday June 20, 2010
 
 

In an era of college athletics when big-money television contracts drive the bus, the revised Big 12 Conference will project both new and old school values — new-school television money, and old-school scheduling and championships.

It could be the best of both worlds for the Big 12’s 10 remaining schools.

Big 12 Commissioner Dan Beebe staved off a takeover by the Pac-10 when he secured assurances of big money in future contracts from the league’s television partners.

Baylor averaged more than 7,000 fans for basketball games last year.
Baylor averaged more than 7,000 fans for basketball games last year. And under the new schedule, national powerhouse Kansas will play in Waco every year.
Rod Aydelotte/Waco Tribune-Herald, file

Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M are each looking at a payday of more than $20 million annually beginning in 2012, while Baylor and the other schools are facing a $14 million to $17 million share.

To coaches, players and fans, the most visible difference in the new 10-team Big 12 will be in the scheduling.

With more conference games, each team and its local economy should benefit competitively and financially.

Nebraska is headed to the Big Ten in the fall of 2011-12, and Colorado could potentially be gone to the Pac-10 the same season.

That means Big 12 football teams could begin a nine-game conference schedule as early as 2011, after playing their usual eight-game conference schedule this fall.

Because North and South divisions will be eliminated, a championship game won’t be needed.

Big 12 men’s and women’s basketball teams will play an 18-game schedule in a home-and-away format. The current format features a 16-game schedule in which teams face their division rivals at home and away, and play the other division schools once per season.

“What I like most about the new Big 12 schedules is that you’ll establish a true champion,” Baylor athletic director Ian McCaw said. “You play a round-robin format in football and basketball, and that’s the fairest thing to do.

“In basketball, you’ll get to see every Big 12 team at home every year. It’s good from a revenue standpoint to play teams within your region instead of going across the country to play.”

In the new Big 12 football format, teams are expected to play five conference home games and four away games in alternating years. Instead of playing four nonconference games, teams will play three.

Strong league

While losing traditional powerhouse Nebraska is a blow, the Big 12 should still be one of the strongest leagues in the country.

“The Big 12 will put a great product on the field,” Baylor football coach Art Briles said. “Top to bottom, I don’t think you could name a league with 10 better teams.”

The Big 12 featured the top-ranked men’s and women’s basketball leagues in the country last season, each placing seven teams in the NCAA tournament. The Baylor and Oklahoma women reached the Final Four, and the Baylor and Kansas State men made the Elite Eight.

The Baylor University basketball team poses before a game against the University of Kansas in 2009. Baylor officials said they are excited that the university’s basketball team will play Kansas every
The Baylor University basketball team poses before a game against the University of Kansas in 2009. Baylor officials said they are excited that the university’s basketball team will play Kansas every year in Waco.
Rod Aydelotte/Waco Tribune-Herald, file

With Nebraska and Colorado out of the picture, Big 12 men’s basketball will be stronger than ever. In addition to the 18-game home-and-away schedule, the league will continue to hold its postseason tournament.

“You’re keeping the best conference in America together, and the rivalries and traditions that go with it,” Baylor men’s basketball coach Scott Drew said. “You’ll have 10 great teams in this conference, and it will make the rivalries grow even more. I love the 18-game format because you’ll have a true champion.”

For the Baylor men’s basketball team, it will be a huge attraction for national power Kansas to play in Waco every year instead of every other year.

“We’ll get to see Kansas every year, and we’ll have people hanging from the rafters,” Baylor economist Tom Kelly said. “I don’t think there’s any question that seeing those teams every year will create rivalries and increase attendance.”

With such great basketball success, the Ferrell Center was a hotbed of activity last season, as the Baylor men averaged 7,457 in home attendance and the women averaged 7,209.

“It seems to me the community is supporting Baylor in every area, including athletics, as much as it ever has,” Waco City Manager Larry Groth said. “But there is always room for improvement. In a town our size, there should not be a Baylor football game that is not a sellout. The same goes for basketball, baseball and softball. It’s easy for the community to get involved in those things.”

Attendance hurdles

But the biggest obstacle continues to be drawing more people to football games at 50,000-seat Floyd Casey Stadium. Baylor ranked last in the Big 12 last year with an average home attendance of 36,306 fans, a slight increase from 34,124 two years ago.

In two home games last season, Texas and Nebraska fans appeared to outnumber Baylor’s fans.

Winning is key

While Baylor and city leaders will continue to look for new ways to market the football program, they said the only sure way to boost attendance is winning. The Bears haven’t had a winning season since the Big 12 formed in 1996.

“A lot of the marketing is in place,” said Steve Smith, senior vice president for sports and special events at the Greater Waco Chamber of Commerce. “Once winning takes place, everything will fall into place. Winning is the No. 1 driving force for attendance.”

Baylor fans showed how passionate and supportive they could be during the men’s and women’s successful runs through the NCAA basketball tournaments.

That was best illustrated at Houston’s Reliant Stadium, when most of the 45,000 fans for the Baylor-Duke Elite Eight game wore Bears colors.

“You saw so many Baylor fans wearing their green and gold and tailgating,” Smith said. “You could see the pride of the fans. It just showed what winning will do, so the basis is there.”

After hearing Monday that the Big 12 was sticking together, Briles emphasized that his program has to do the most with its second chance.

The Bears have gone 4-8 in Briles’ first two seasons, but the prospects should improve with quarterback Robert Griffin returning from last year’s knee injury.

“It’s like we’ve been given new life,” Briles said. “Now, we’ve got to take advantage of this saving chance. This has been eye-opening, and we’d better be proactive and do our best every day. We’ve got to understand the opportunity that has been given us, and take full advantage of it.”

Sterling Sherrill, the president of the Waco Hotel/Motel Association, said a revived Big 12 with more conference games sounds like a godsend. The tourism industry has suffered the past two years with a poor economy.

“We’re just trying to survive and desperately need anything we can to build up tourism and bring people to Waco,” Sherrill said. “With more conference teams coming to town, what could have been a disaster might be a better scenario than what was in place.

“But we need Baylor alumni around the state to catch fire and spend some nights with us. Right now, we’re depending on alumni from opposing teams to put heads in beds.”

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Jun. 23, 2010, 10:49PM

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Stop being delusional. Anybody with an ounce of common sense knows that basketball considerations played little or no role in the whole conference realignment scenario. Football drove it all. To lump Tech and Oklahoma State in with Baylor and the other left behinds when dispersing the money is, to say the least, inequitable.

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 9:34PM

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Come to think of it Im not sure Baylor will ever beat UT in football.1992 last time Baylor beat UT in football? Playing field not as level since money took over.

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 8:05PM

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Tech and Baylor turned the corner at the same time in football.Tech took off,when do you think the Bears will be in the hunt? We all need to beat TU.

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 7:02PM

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Colorado will kick arse in the Pac-10, they escaped the Big 12 South and all the cheaters. The Pac-10 would never have taken BU to start with, but when the BB program gets the death penalty, who gets the last laugh then. You all make fun of CU and NU in hoops, seems to me CU drilled BU last year and no one was blowing out either of them with regularity. And enjoy those road trips to 10 ofthe ugliest cities in America.

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 5:33PM

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To equate the 45k at the bball tourney to putting the same number in seats for six football games during the fall in Waco is just foolish. However, during the 80's BU averaged about that much and out drew TT I believe. Briles can do it, but it will take a couple of winning years.

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 3:56PM

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Let the Baylor fan run its mouth. They know deep down that the Longhorns kept them out of conference USA... and for Basketball what a joke. Hell, no conference wanted Kansas and they have the best basketball program on the globe.

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 1:28PM

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Over the years, the administration of who sits where has irritated may a fan when they kick you out of the seats you regularly subscribe to in past years because someone else can pay more money for your seat than you can. Join this, join that, and you get priority seating that removes some poor feller further away from the core seating. Math will tell you that you can make as much money by selling tickets to 6 for $100 a ticket compared to selling to 12 for $50 a ticket. The efficiency this logic creates is that you have fewer people that provide the same revenues, but the problem is that you can't replace all that you lose with people paying the higher prices, thus creating the many empty seats, or selling them to your opponent. If you want some of us back in seats, and I am one who left many years ago, the BU Administration needs to value loyalty in a different light than they do now.

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 1:12PM

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No cream puffs for Briles and Baylor is already 14-98 in league play. Why isn't Baylor in the Southland Conference?

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 11:11AM

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Jimbo, you're missing the point. It doesn't matter who leaves. If Missouri left the B12 ( a team that isn't a football power) it is still a blow to the conference's image. The B12 from an outsider perspective looks in disarray. I argue however with your assumption NEB isn't a USC. Why was it Texas said if NEB left, the conference is finished ? Texas entertained offers from 3 other leagues b/c NEB left, so why are you implying it wasn't a huge blow ?

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 8:52AM

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Nebraska hasn't been a USC in a longtime and losing Colorado was no big deal...They'll continue to lose in the PAC..

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 8:49AM

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Propaganda, where was PAC 10 football ranked among conferences last season and a few seasons berore that? It didn't even register. Now, their flagship school, USC, has stepped into a big pile of manure and proved it can't make a go of it without cheating at Mafia levels.

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 8:45AM

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Child Sooner, you have enough to worry about with your taxpayer supported Tier 3 chokers made up of a bunch of Texas traitors who embarrass the BIG 12 regularly in bowl games. Can you say. "Boise State"? I can recite a few more memories you ought to be ashamed of. With the pot of gold ou has to work with and only one school in the state of oklahoma to compete with, "oyou" should never lose...but you do!

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 1:32AM

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Can you imagine the P10 commissioner calling a media day and saying "We need to report USC and Arizona are ditching the Pac Ten for the Big 12, but this is a good thing". Would you believe him ? No !

 

Jun. 21, 2010, 1:23AM

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Is this article for real ? "Hi guys, we had two great respected institutions bolt from our league and we lost our lucrative conference championship game, but hey, it's really a good thing and we're all excited about it". Talk about trying to put lipstick on a pig. Big 12 looks like a disaster, stop this pathetic propaganda.

 

Jun. 20, 2010, 8:10PM

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Bowling drought ends this season!

 

Jun. 20, 2010, 7:39PM

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Basketball--VOMIT,6000 fans verses 100,000 thousand UT faithful.More Texas fans at Floyd Casey than Baylor fans.LOL LOL and you try to play the basketball card! FOOL!!!!!!!

 

Jun. 20, 2010, 6:09PM

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Sooner and Mr. Longhorn, I'm glad you guys stayed in the big-12, it means 4 easy wins for our basketball team and rest for our varsity players.

 

Jun. 20, 2010, 12:37PM

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Sooner does have one valid point--Baylor will never go to a bowl game in the B-12.Oh yeah I guess he is also right about resting the varsity!

 

Jun. 20, 2010, 11:35AM

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I always enjoy watching the sooners choke in bowl game after bowl game. Bob Stoops, with that clueless look, getting his butt kicked. OU is just a tag along to everything that TU wants to do.

 

Jun. 20, 2010, 11:26AM

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The Sooner: Call us when you have a degree. And call us when OU makes a bowl game without cheating. Thanks.

 

Jun. 20, 2010, 10:50AM

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We all use Baylor for a football win and to rest the varsity.Glad you dudes are still in the 12,you wont make it to a bowl game but you can watch us and TU.You dudes bring nothing to the football table for revenue or wins.

 





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Date Opponent Time/
Result
Pics TV?
Sept. 2 TCU W, 50-48    ESPN
Sept. 17 SFA W, 48-0   
Sept. 24 Rice (parents' weekend) W, 56-31    Fox SW
Oct. 1 @ Kansas
State
L, 36-35 ABC
Oct. 8 Iowa State W, 49-26    Fox SW
Oct. 15 @ Texas A&M L, 55-28    FX
Oct. 29 @ Okla.
State
L, 59-24 ABC
Nov. 5 Missouri
(homecoming)
W, 42-39      Fox SW
Nov. 12 @ Kansas
W, 31-30 (OT)
Nov. 19 Oklahoma W, 45-38    ABC
Nov. 26 vs. Texas Tech (at Dallas) W, 66-42 Fox SW
Dec. 3 Texas W, 48-24    ABC
Dec. 29 Alamo Bowl vs. Washington
(Alamodome,
San Antonio)
W, 67-56  ESPN
 

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