Local leaders voice reactions to selection of new Baylor president
By Mike Copeland and J.B. Smith Tribune-Herald staff writers
Some leaders in Waco’s business and civic establishment interviewed Monday consider Ken Starr distinguished, others notorious. But even the doubters voiced hope that Baylor University’s new president will be a friend to Waco.
Waco Industrial Foundation leader Bill Clifton said he heard concerns Monday about Starr’s reputation as the former independent prosecutor in the Clinton Whitewater investigation. But he said Baylor and Waco are “interlocked” in education and economic development, and they need to continue working together under the new president.
“I didn’t expect this at all,” he said. “I’m shocked, but that doesn’t mean it won’t have a good result. . . . The guy is going to get past first impressions. It’s his responsibility and ours to meet him halfway and see what he has to say. . . . I’m going to give him a chance, because this thing needs to work for Waco and Baylor.”
Clifton noted that Baylor has partnered with Waco on a community education initiative as well as the Baylor Research and Innovation Collaborative, a proposed industrial laboratory that he called the area’s biggest opportunity in decades.
Greater Waco Chamber of Commerce president Jim Vaughan also pledged to work with Starr and wished him the best in uniting and advancing the university.
“Is his selection surprising?” he said. “Yes. Could it be divisive? I think that would be up to him. His job is to reach out to all constituencies of the university, both on campus and off-campus. . . . It is my job at the chamber to work with various constituents, and I’m committed to working with Mr. Starr or whomever Baylor may select.”
Pick praised, criticized
Some local civic and business leaders praised the decision to hire Starr.
“I think it will be a plus for the community,” said Jack McKinney, executive director of the Dr Pepper Museum. He cited other universities that have benefited from hiring people with strong legal backgrounds and political connections.
K. Paul Holt, president and CEO of the Central Texas Chapter of Associated General Contractors, saw the selection as a bold move.
“Mr. Starr certainly brings a national stature to Baylor and Waco that we have not previously experienced,” Holt said. “His selection is certainly in concert with the university’s goal to become a top-tier research school.”
Dina Dwyer-Owens, chairman and CEO of the Dwyer Group, a franchising empire based in Waco, met Starr at a recent convention where he was speaking at a prayer breakfast. She was impressed with him.
“I think he will bring great value to the university and the community,” she said. “I have a great feeling about the guy.
“He may be a far-right guy, but Ken is about doing what’s right. He has a grasp of the importance of vision and knows that a leader is responsible for navigating an organization through that vision.”
‘Polarizing individual’
On the opposite pole, Waco banker Bill Nesbitt minced no words when reacting to the news Monday morning.
“I think that is sickening. I hope it turns out not to be true,” said Nesbitt, chairman and CEO of Central National Bank and past president of the Baylor Alumni Association. “Starr is part of the far-right wing of the Republican Party, and he is a politically polarizing individual of the worst kind. This is divisive in all capital letters.”
Nesbitt, who has law and accounting degrees from Baylor, said naming Starr to the presidency “diminishes the value of those degrees.”
Bernard Rapoport, a Waco philanthropist and insurance mogul who has occasionally donated to Baylor causes, also found the news disappointing but for more personal reasons.
Rapoport, a key fundraiser for Bill Clinton’s presidential campaigns, said Starr’s staff questioned him during the Whitewater investigation.
“I was called to Little Rock to see if I did certain things that I didn’t do,” he said. “I feel like I know him intimately, though I’ve never met him. I got a taste of him, and I didn’t like him. . . . I don’t have confidence in him. I think his conduct in the Clinton affair was just awful.”
He added, “You have to remember, Bill Clinton and I are intimate friends, so my view is prejudiced.”
Peter Kultgen at Bird-Kultgen Ford questioned the wisdom of hiring Starr.
“I’m kind of surprised that Baylor would choose a quasi-political figure to be its president,” he said. “When you have a high-profile role related to something controversial, like the impeachment of President Clinton, half the people will support you, and half will hate you.
“I don’t know how that’s going to affect Baylor,” Kultgen added.
Phil Adkins, local Shipley Do-Nuts franchisee and board president of public broadcasting station KWBU, agreed that Starr’s background could make him polarizing.
Still, Adkins said he thinks Starr “will put Baylor in a new circle, a new orbit in the way the school’s name circulates around the United States. Because of his work within the Republican Party, his name may have as much weight or influence as the Bush name.
“I’m sure he will have a different level of networking than any president who has ever served Baylor. Every organization wants to have its name on the lips of people who don’t live locally, and it would seem Starr will bring things to the university’s door that it has not had before.”
Relationship with city
Mayor Virginia DuPuy said she doesn’t know much about Starr, but she was looking forward to meeting him at a Monday evening reception at the home of Jim and Nell Hawkins.
“I hope he brings a very intense interest in the Baylor and Waco communities, because everything one does affects the other,” she said. “I’m looking forward to understanding how that will work out.”
She said interim president David Garland has been an “outstanding” model of uniting town and gown.
“Even though he was interim, everything he did helped ensure that the Baylor-Waco relationship was able to move forward. With the newly selected president, I hope he will be able to build those kinds of working relationships.”
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Whooooo-eeeee! Baylor and Ken Starr....almost as bad as A&M and Rick Perry. What the heck was Baylor thinking?
Stunned at Bill Nesbitt's comment!
Star is not as right wing as the press made him sound during the Clinton hearings. Most of that was just reaction to a leftist president being criticized for acting like a leftist. In any case, you can hardly expect Baylor to appoint a Karl Marx or Madeline Murray O'hair as president.
Star is not as right wing as the press made him sound during the Clinton hearings. Most of that was just reaction to a leftist president being criticized for acting like a leftist. In any case, you can hardly expect Baylor to appoint a Karl Marx or Madeline Murray O'hair as president.
To: Go Ness, You have said it all!!!
Steps to lower deposits: 1. open mouth 2. insert foot 3. see people run to other banks to make deposits 4. Way to Go!!!! Nice to see all these other small banks cropping up in Waco.
This is stunning and foolish. He's way too divisive and his resume and record is not so impressive as to warrant this risk.
Hey 2 cents, you're getting the younger and older Kultgen confused as to who came to Mill's defense. And Yo, MVPWOOHOO, cash for clunkers was a huge waste of taxpayer money that could be used to purchase any brand car and that mostly benefited non domestic brands and Kultgen is far better off that Government Motors, Chrysler and Toyota. I don't see where you get off attacking someone with such an innocuous response as the one given by kultgen.
WTF does this have to do with Chet Edwards, you moron?
Chet Edwards is really between a rock and hard place. Will he repudiate his overlords, Rapapport and Kultgen, by embracing Kenneth Starr, or will Chet criticize Starr's appointment and remind the voters of his largely conservative district in an election year what a raving liberal he really is?
We all know that MSSRS. Kultgen and Rapapport are great judges of character. Remember when they came to Margaret Mills defense when she please guilty to stealing A half Million dollars from the Taxpayers and member of Downtown Waco. These two sang her praises and made excuses. And where did she BANK, could it be Central (LEFTIST) National Bank. I think in fairness we should give MR. STARR, at least the respect you have GIVEN your convicted Felon FRIEND MILLS. And for a Reality check, President Clinton, did something he should not have and he got caught. I guess we will not have Sen. Hillary speaking at Baylor Graduation.
It is your opinion that these men have done "ALOT OF GOOD FOR WACO" I don't share that opinion. Just because Al Capone gave a little money back to the neighborhood didn't make him a good guy.
@JOE you should hook up a bunch of balloons to the Baylor campus and see if it could float away...like in the movie UP.
Ha ha ha. I just had to laugh and reply at the name Sic'end Bear. You better go get that looked at Sic'end Bear.
If Waco could just get rid of BAYLOR and get a STATE UNIVERSITY just think they could have a chance in the BIG 12 and be abel to recruit some good athletes. Waco could back them, revenue would flow, BEER and DANCING could flourish and all this baloney about what numbnut they just got as president wouldn't matter. All the BAPTISTS fault. LOL
I love it. I love this hire by Baylor...I love all the uncomfortableness it's causing..Even though I'm not a fan of Baylor. This whole Baylor clique in town needed a shakeup, and this is a daisy. Nesbitt, luckily I don't have my pennies in your bank. If I did I would immediately withdraw every one. If I knew somebody who had money in your bank I would offer them every favor I could for them to get their money out of your bank. Kultgen, I wonder how strong your dealership is these days.. President Obama threw you a lifeline with the cash for clunkers program. Someone should question the wisdom of your mangagement skills. Taylors, 7 accounts huh? Ok. You might have to open a couple of more. To sum up my comments, I will say what I've said all along. Waco has too many cliques and a bunch of hypocrites. The article above shows this. I made the suggestion yesterday that all the Baylor alumni who don't approve of Ken Starr should boycott the campus or move out of Waco or tear up your degree. I hope Ken Starr drops the hammer on much of the crap that surrounds Baylor. Leaders lead, and followers follow.
Nesbitt just lost my business for such a assinine quote. Vaughn is a big supporter and contributor to Obama. Go figure that one. I just love it..........
If I still have half a mind my diploma was sighned by Dr Abner McCall. I didn't agree with all of his decisions but am proud to have his signature today. In seeking employment no one has asked me who sighned my diploma. If I read Mr. Nesbitt's obvious foot in mouth response should I demand less or lower my asking price for my experienced talent since Ken Starr is now Baylor President. If so, it would be proper for him to lower his salary at Central National so other minority stockholders would receive a higher dividend. That being said, when you bring politics and religion into your business dealings thereby offending your right wind tea bagger clientel thereby losing customers and further lowering bank profits and dividends I'm thinking he skipped class when bank marketing was brought up. I for one don't see it as telling it like it is but a lack of business acumen and grace. Sickened bears? They bite. Get over it.
Regardless of their individual politics, Bill Nesbitt and Bernard Rapoport have done a lot of good for Waco. And, from the looks of it, Jim Vaughan wasn't exactly giving a glowing endorsement of BU’s decision, either. The issue isn't so much with Starr eventually 'fitting-in' at Baylor as it is with Baylor/Waco's perception across the region and the nation. Nesbitt has a point: Why on earth would you select someone with that much baggage? Sure, some of that baggage might be ‘mis-perception’, but Baylor will never be able to clear-up those ‘mis-perceptions’ during Starr's term as president. When Baylor so desperately needed a consensus, unifying pick for president, the regents could not have selected a more divisive name to serve in this role. After splitting the Baylor community along religious beliefs (during Sloan’s presidency), the regents have now fractured the Baylor family along political lines. Bill Nesbitt is probably never going to end up on Waco’s Most Liked person list. But, he’d almost certainly make Waco’s Most Respected. He doesn’t sugarcoat anything and he calls it like he sees it. With Bill, what you see is what you get. Too bad he’s not on Baylor’s board of regents---they could use someone like him.
Thanks Texas!!!! its a great day for California..we are rid of him, hopefully for good...
Only good thing that has come out of any of this is we get to see the true colors of some of our more prestigious Wacoan's. Nice to know where everyone stands now and again. Not that we didnt know but some of our "leaders" are not even close to having the same values as local citizens I hope people are paying attention to who is saying what here.
At least Bill Nesbitt has the guts to put his own business interests aside and publicly express the horror and disbelief that so many others are thinking and talking about in private. The rest are falling all over themselves to put a good face on it and wouldn't care if Satan were elected Baylor's president so long as they can maintain their place at the Baylor money trough.
As a current Baylor student, I'm shocked. Baylor needs a consistent direction. Appointing a polarizing figure (whether you like or dislike him, you have to agree that he's polarizing)is in direct contradiction to claimed goal of making Baylor a top tier university. Unfortunately, I agree with Mr. Nesbitt and it seems that the majority of the academy does as well. This was not a wise selection, and the Baylor family, alumni, and the university as a whole will suffer for it.
Nesbitt is 100% correct in his assessment of the Baylor choice. So is B. Rapoport. So is Mr. Kultgen. As for Mr. Rapoport's buddy being a "crook", what did Clinton do that was so crooked? He lied to a modern day clone of a Spanish Inquisitor...about a subject that had nothing to do with Whitewater...and Starr, after spending $100 million of taxpayer money on a Republican party sponsored political witch hunt, had to finally admit that he could find nothing incriminating the Clinton's with respect to Whitewater. And them Mr. Starr goes on to represent some of the most despicable corporate criminals in the world; the tobacco crooks...all of whom lied on the stand, under oath, during the televised Congressional hearings...and none were charged by the Republican majority on that committee for perjury even though they all committed flagrant perjury. So much for Starr's character. "Birds of a feather flock together." American and world academia will shun Baylor for this ridiculous move!!!
Mr Starr may work on the side if the board approves. Say what? Does the job not pay enough? Maybe a para legal at Beard Kultgen or teller at Central National? Give me a break.
Baylor Alum 71- that is too funny! Wish the rest of our alumni had a sense of humor!
Mr. Nesbitt, you have made a jackalope of yourself and your bank. How now do you plan on working with Dr. Starr after all the visceral damage. As a former Baptist and now a Presbyterian are you even qualified to judge the Baylor appointment. If you peddle your law and CPA degrees on ebay, I don't think you will see an appreciable drop in values. You see, education and money are not the mark of a man. Humbleness and graciousness are for most of McLennan County is now considered to be right of center. Not far right nor far left. Check your deposits, they are a tumbling.
"people will think--"right-wing school." waco is a mixed political bag as well; does being an idealogue put one in a position to be a civic leader?" baylor is a private christian university with baptist affiliations
Although I feel Kent Starr is a great dentist and was a great football player in the days when we didn't know what a win was, I find it disturbing that he has been elected to lead Baylor into the ozone age. Tommy Bowman was a great basketball player and should have been given equal consideration but I don't believe he was even vetted. Conratulations Dr. Starr. Is my next appointment still a go?
I love it when people say the appointment of a President diminishes the value of their degrees. Yes, because now that people know Baylor hired this guy, there's no way they'll respect you. Give me a break. Most people outside of Waco probably won't even be able to tell you who Baylor hired. Get over yourselves.
Was Janet Reno not available? She has great knowlege in handleing trouble in Waco! Baylor could be very helpful to Waco especially if they were to study why we seem like a third world country. The very rich and the very poor. Maybe Baylor with it's new leader will solve the poverty cyclical by using Ben Franklin's idea. Make them extremely uncomfortable in there present environment. Thereby decreasing the mounting deficit problem. Mr. Nesbitt could pitch in by loaning money to small businesses that don't carry equal compensating collateral for the amount borrowed. Even though novel in banking where they are always willing to lend to those that don't need to borrow it might boost our economy by give Joe twelve-pack a chance to succeed and start hiring. We could call that real growth, not a government bailout.
To be fair, did the board interview Vann Jones, a former Obama czar or Bill Ayers founder of the Weather Underground. Mr. Nesbitt, not being of old Waco money as alluded to be one commentator needs to clean up his side of the street. Mr. Rappaport, although very left, was gracious in his dissent. The hypocritical Baptist of the past and present needs to fade away. Is hope eternal?
Well atleast I know which bank in Waco never to associate with. Atleast Rapoport was civil in his disagreement although I have to say it wouldn't have been so "awful" as he said if his buddy hadn't been a crook. I was impressed with the job Starr did. He was able to bust through the roadblocks put in his way and bring a criminal's crimes to light.
That is why I love Bill Nesbitt and Central National Bank...and also why we have 7 accounts there.
Why don't we just keep POLITICS out of the WHOLE education system, period! Focuse on leadership and EDUCATION. Partisan comments show ones true inner self and their aspirations...
Apparently Joe never met Dr. Lilly.....
To Bill Nesbitt: Perhaps if you're esteemed president hadn't chosen, of his own free will, to commit perjury before a grand jury, and to suborn others to do the same, there wouldn't have been such "polarization." Starr was appointed by Janet Reno to investigate the Whitewater matter; she later added the perjury matter to his plate. He did exactly what the Justice Dept. asked of him. As a typical Democrat party hack and apologist I'm sure you would have been happier had he swept it all under the rug. Instead, he did his job. This you find "divisive?" Because *your* guy got caught committing multiple felonies? Maybe your contempt would better targeted at Reno and the Clinton justice department who ordered him to investigate Clinton's admitted perjury in the first place. On the other hand, that wouldn't advance you're political agenda, would it? I thank you, Mr. Nesbitt, for sharing your political views with us. Now I know which bank to NEVER (in all capital letters) do business with.
Mr Rapoport says "I think his conduct in the Clinton affair was just awful." I think Mr. Clinton's conduct in the Clinton affair was much worse. I think he will be a successful leader and will hopefully destroy the power-starved, antagonist BAA once and for all.
Nesbitt's comments make him appear as a polarizing individual himself, one of the BAA members who will never be satisfied and who delight in publicly and vocally criticizing the university's every move. There's probably a little posturing in his comments, too, since he's a trustee of Rapoport's foundation. Rapoport was gracious, as always, even in disagreement.
I think the movers and shakers of Waco think they have lost control of the Presidency of Baylor and Starr will be a tougher (or more expensive) customer to deal with. Kultgen and Nesbitt. Two old Waco families down, a dozen more to go. May the Noze brothers cater your next party.
Ken Starr is just the man to lead Baylor boldly into the 1980s!
Yes, I am equally surprised. Not only about Mr Starr's selection but the strong negative reaction by some of our so called "business leaders" in Waco. Their response is in part to the fact he is a far right conservative and for his role in the impeachment of Bill Clinton. He was a prosecutor selected to do a job not unlike any other attorney chosen to represent a client; which in this case was us "the people". Why would these well known businessmen opposing him with such outward anger and "disgust" not give him the benefit of the doubt as to what type leader he can be for Baylor. I trust the Baylor Regents looked at Mr. Starr's credentials and found him the best choice. It is obvious both Mr Nesbitt and Mr. Kultgen already have their mind made up about Mr. Starr so what are we to expect with regard to their future cooperation of helping move Baylor forward. At least most of the others commenting about the selection are keeping an open mind. Its unfortunate Mr. Nesbitt and Mr Kultgen could not do likewise.
Anything is better than Robert Sloan. He was undoubtedly the WORST president Baylor ever had!
as one who lives way outside of texas, i'm especially miffed at this choice. the second that ken starr is associated with baylor, people will think--"right-wing school." waco is a mixed political bag as well; does being an idealogue put one in a position to be a civic leader? i don't think so. yuck!
Rodney I find your comment confusing..both sides of I-35 are Waco. The president of Baylor does not lead the city of Waco...The Bush name is big in Waco...people do like the chicken tenders there..but they never seem political when I eat at Bush's. There are lot's of liberal Democrats in Waco...this is one of the most liberal parts of the country.
The meeting will come to order. Those of you who think the Bush name carried weight or influence in Waco please stand. Anyone? Anyone at all? Oh, hi George. I didn't know you were at the ranch today. You can sit down now. Just what we need. Another far-right-wing Republican. I guess we need to find a far-left-wing Democrat for the Waco side of I-35 to keep things in balance.
Sounds like Waco's blue-bloods are disappointed that Starr was appointed but are going to line up to kiss kiss anyway.
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