Gloves come off at GOP primary debate

By Michael W. Shapiro Tribune-Herald staff writer

Wednesday February 3, 2010
 
 

The five Republicans gunning for a chance to take on U.S. Rep. Chet Edwards, D-Waco, sparred at a Tuesday debate over who was the best fundraiser, who has the best background and whose ties to the district run the deepest.

The event — sponsored by the McLennan County Republican Club — heated up when candidates took turns asking questions of each other. A few of them were pointed.

Timothy Delasandro, a College Station nurse, asked Bill Flores, a retired oil and gas executive, why he’s donated to U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison’s gubernatorial run. He pointed out that Hutchison opposes overturning Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion.

Republican congressional candidates (from right to left) Bill Flores, Chuck Wilson, Rob Curnock, Timothy Delasandro and Dave McIntyre get instructions from Chris DeCluitt (left) before Tuesday night’s
Republican congressional candidates (from right to left) Bill Flores, Chuck Wilson, Rob Curnock, Timothy Delasandro and Dave McIntyre get instructions from Chris DeCluitt (left) before Tuesday night’s debate.
Jerry Larson/Waco Tribune-Herald

Flores said he believes “every life has a soul, and every life, whether born or not born, deserves due process,” but he feels comfortable supporting Hutchison because, despite her personal views, he liked her voting record on the subject, saying, “She votes pro-life.”

Voting record

Waco small businessman Rob Curnock, the 2008 GOP nominee for the seat, also questioned Flores, asking the Bryan Republican who he’s voted for in recent elections.

Flores said he cast a ballot for Curnock. But he made it clear that he felt that Curnock’s history as a candidate didn’t give Curnock any special edge or momentum in 2010.

“I appreciate you trying to blaze the trail, but we’re not on the 2-yard line,” he said, disputing a line Curnock has used often on the campaign trail.

For his part, Flores’ question was something of a softball toss. He asked Chuck Wilson, a Waco residential developer and retired CIA agent, about foreign policy.

Wilson also made an effort to distance himself from the field, stressing his McLennan County upbringing and knowledge of local issues.

“It’s a local race. We’re going to have to have a hometown boy to beat Chet Edwards in McLennan County,” Wilson said, noting that Edwards has won the county by large margins in the Waco area and convinced Republicans to cross over to vote for him.

Wilson and Dave McIntyre, a national security expert and Texas A&M University professor in College Station, had a relatively testy exchange during the debate.

McIntyre asked Wilson to pull a sentence from his Web site that points out that McIntyre’s campaign has “$77,476 in debt left over from his prior unsuccessful races for Congress.”

McIntyre said the line was misleading and that he’s simply loaned his campaign money.

Wilson said debt campaigns carry is a legitimate issue and reflects how well they’ll be able to raise money in the future.

McIntyre rebuked Wilson’s statement that it will take a “hometown boy” to win.

“I don’t think they’ll pick a hometown boy without a vision,” he said.

Republican congressional candidates (from left to right) Rob Curnock, Bill Flores, Chuck Wilson, Timothy Delasandro and Dave McIntyre.
Republican congressional candidates (from left to right) Rob Curnock, Bill Flores, Chuck Wilson, Timothy Delasandro and Dave McIntyre.
Jerry Larson/Waco Tribune-Herald

McIntyre said he would push, if elected, to make Waco a national security hub, which he said would be a natural fit given its central location.

At one point, he referred to himself as a “visionary.”

After about two hours, the candidates filed off the stage, all smiles, and shook hands. But it was clear that, with a month to go until the primary, the gloves were off.

According to the candidates’ latest fundraising reports, Flores has out-raised his opponents and leads the field with roughly $416,000 — about 75 percent of which he contributed or loaned to his campaign.

Curnock, McIntyre and Wilson have raised about $146,000, $124,000 and $122,000 respectively. Delasandro’s most recent report was not available from the Federal Elections Commission Web site Tuesday.

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Feb. 05, 2010, 6:49PM

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old gringo I know what you're saying, but the mood in this whole nation is "throw the incumbants out!" And I think the time is ripe now like it's never been to rid ourselves of Chet, he's tied himself to Obama and Pelosi and their about as unpopular as it gets in this district. I think you'll find a lot of voters finally connecting the dots between Chet's spending spree and the dismal state of our nation. Chets gone baby!

 

Feb. 05, 2010, 6:49PM

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old gringo I know what you're saying, but the mood in this whole nation is "throw the incumbants out!" And I think the time is ripe now like it's never been to rid ourselves of Chet, he's tied himself to Obama and Pelosi and their about as unpopular as it gets in this district. I think you'll find a lot of voters finally connecting the dots between Chet's spending spree and the dismal state of our nation. Chets gone baby!

 

Feb. 05, 2010, 6:41PM

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I love how people who talk down on McIntyre never really attack his ideas they just paraphrase him incorrectly and mock that. What scorched earth policy? McIntyre is an expert, has his own ideas about bringing money into the district and frankly, Chuck doesn't care about anything but Waco. He has no appeal in the rest of the district, but McIntyre will represent everyone, even those of you who want to stand by Chet. The thing with Wilson lying about McIntyre being in debt is what really turned me off to him. Those 2, Wilson and McIntyre are the only one's I would vote for but when chuck went dirty politics on mcintyre who has been running an honorable campaign it just didn't sit well with many of us. I'm just happy to see so much disgust with Flores, I'm sick of suits like him. We've tried that before and those types can't beat Chet. That man is just boring and has no ideas. He'll down whatever washington republicans tell him too... Mcintyre's his own man and is smart enough to maneuver around DC with the best of 'em without being one of them. He'll get this district on the map as it should be, we don't have to sit in the shadows of all the cities around us. Chet's held us back to long, we're in a good spot to grow.

 

Feb. 05, 2010, 5:36PM

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I hope you're right hossfly. If so, wilson will win. McIntyre was the only one at the debate that drew some groans/frowns when he spoke. His mantra on education was different. It was also off base and revealed his academia-centric mentality. His scorched earth demeanor won't get anything done in D.C. Wilson is the MAN!

 

Feb. 05, 2010, 5:36PM

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I hope you're right hossfly. If so, wilson will win. McIntyre was the only one at the debate that drew some groans/frowns when he spoke. His mantra on education was different. It was also off base and revealed his academia-centric mentality. His scorched earth demeanor won't get anything done in D.C. Wilson is the MAN!

 

Feb. 05, 2010, 4:57PM

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Between McIntyre and Wilson, McIntyre is the only one that really is an expert on National security. McIntyre is also the only one of the candidates that doesn't sound like he's repeating everything I hear on Talk radio. He's his own man with his own ideas.

 

Feb. 05, 2010, 3:25PM

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Ben!! What about that old man that ran against Chet back in the 90s when Bell County was his stronghold? The old gizzer a republican white knight in a strong reupublican area........Old gizzer goes down not once but twice!!! Just waite and see!! Chet will win again...

 

Feb. 05, 2010, 3:25PM

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Ben!! What about that old man that ran against Chet back in the 90s when Bell County was his stronghold? The old gizzer a republican white knight in a strong reupublican area........Old gizzer goes down not once but twice!!! Just waite and see!! Chet will win again...

 

Feb. 05, 2010, 2:50PM

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"This is a Democratic seat and will always be held by a democrat!" -Coakley on Massachusetts Wait and see, in 2010 Chet's career is over. The only way the republicans will fail is if they run Curnock or Flores. Curnock is unelectable, if he wasn't he would be in by now. Let's face it, you can only lose so many times before you're a loser. And Flores is an outsider, everyone I know is just offended that he would pretend to be from here just so he can buy the election. He doesn't even have any ideas! He is the reason Republicans have failed to unseat Chet, just another empty suit businessman. You just can't get anyone excited about Flores, he's doomed to fail against Chet despite his money. This race will be McIntyre or Wilson, they are the only ones with a local and national appeal; local and national experience. Both can beat Chet. If you think Chet isn't going to be out in a few months you just haven't been listening to the people... like Chet. We're sick of him and his empty promises. His refusal to represent the conservative nature of this district. People put up with Chet for a long time, but the mood of this country has changed and this district can actually make a difference on a national level. People aren't all as selfish as you so called republicans who support Chet just because he throws some chump change at us now and then. We're putting a republican in there, we're fixing I-35 and bringing real money into Waco, we're stopping the progressive socialist takeover of our country and we're putting a congressman in Washington who we can be proud of!

 

Feb. 04, 2010, 9:56PM

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I watched the debate. I gotta ask why Curnock thinks that losing repeatedly is a qualification. Has he lost his mind? And I gotta ask why Delesandro thinks that being the dumbest person on the stage is a qualificiation. Is that really the best strategy he could coee up with? And I gotta say that the way Flores kept reminding us how rich he was ("I have the resources) seemed pretty classless. And the last thing I gotta say is this: if Flores is a conservative, then he doesn't believe government should be in the business of creating jobs. And yet the ability to create jobs seems to be his only real credential (besides being rich... did he mention that?).

 

Feb. 04, 2010, 9:51PM

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Wow. Lifetime Wacoan and oldgringo and several other sock puppets. I assume you work for Edwards. The guy that had the nicest stateroom on the Titanic wasn't any better off for it, was he? Let's leave aside the absurdity of the claim that Chet has/can/will bring jobs to the district (hallelujiah! what would po' folks do without a gub'mint to bring us jobs?!). Is that really worth sending another democrat back to Washington to vote for the legistlation that will kill the whole country? So the nation tanks, but at least this district has jobs to pay increasing taxes while we crash? Nice talking point about the health care vote, by the way. Very clever of him to vote "no" after enough "yes" votes had already been cast. Real leadership there.

 

Feb. 04, 2010, 8:38PM

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Ben!!!Hang it up dude!! The vets,teachers,coaches,cheerleaders,police,wifes,soccer moms,elderly,and used car dealers are voting for Chet and HE will win!!! You boys cannot beat him!! Wait and see !!!!

 

Feb. 04, 2010, 3:35PM

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Lifetime Wacoan, The district has infrastructure that is falling apart. Chet's been in office for 20 years and our roads are horrible, we're being dwarfed by economies to our north and south, we still don't have an interstate going into College Station.... should I go on? You think Chet's really made a difference but I think he's just tricked your vote from you with empty promises. Furthermore, even the small potatoes he's brought to the district come at the price of enabling a liberal progressive congress to detroy America. You seem to think this is all about Waco. Well, the district is bigger than Waco and the rest of us are unhappy. Additionally, what Chet brings to WACO he brings at the expense of the rest of our country. He is going down this election, one of the republicans will be in that seat and Chet will be out of a job. And when that happens I think you'll be pleasantly suprised to see Waco and the rest of the district prosper under leadership we aren't ashamed of.

 

Feb. 04, 2010, 1:16PM

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Ben, it appears that you've missed my point, or just don't have a credible claim to refute it. Like I said, it doesn't matter who it is, a Democrat, Republican, or independent; a 10 term Congressman will be more effective at securing stimulus for our district than a rookie. PERIOD. Also, I'm really not sure what you're babbling about concerning healthcare, as Chet Edwards voted 'NO' when it came to the House. This election should be about JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. Once you're able to put your petty partisan claims to bed, and actually consider what's best for this district, you'll join me and the other thousands of Republicans that are voting for Chet Edwards.

 

Feb. 04, 2010, 9:53AM

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Hey Lifetime Wacoan, and anyone else voting for Chet: You're not republicans! You think a dinosaur park is worth allowing this democrat to destroy our country with a government takeover of health care? Chet has brought a handful of jobs to the district but neglected to fix 35. Chet has tricked you into thinking he's good for the economy, he's a lifetime congressman and he IS the problem with Washington! I'm not excited about the republicans either- we have Dave who's smarter than us, Flores who's not even from here, Curnock who appears to be leading a cult of Cur-nuts whose sole qualification for office is losing previously, Chuck who is just weird, and Delasandro who I like but just can't win. But all these guys are better for our district and our nation than Chet! Chet is one of the most liberal members of congress, he throws your tax money away and he's enableing Obama to destroy our nation. And most valuble player-- kudos to you for making the most absurd argument I've ever heard, that Chet saves lives by keeping jobs and preventing suicide! You've got republicans like Dave and Chuck who have served their nation in serious roles and actually saved lives in dangerous situations, and you think Chet has done anything like that? Wow, hope you guys make those arguments in November.

 

Feb. 04, 2010, 9:43AM

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This is a critial time for America. It is crucial that we seed someone ready to prepresent our values on day one. I have carefully picked candidates to support for decades, sometimes picking the Democrat, sometimes the Republican. We must have a person who is knowledgeable, experienced, and aggressive to fight the garbage in D.C. That person must have integrity and be running for the benefit of our country, not to become "Congressman X". I have no doubt, no doubt that the best person to send to DC in this race is Dave McIntyre. It is obvious why he is the person who got the national Tea Party Express officer's endorsement. His 30 years military, actual working with Congress when he was in the Pentagon, expertise in Homeland Security, border security, immigration problems, etc, etc, etc. tell me he is prepared to help take back our country on day one. He is best prepared, and will defeat Chet Pelosi lapdog Edwards. Fire Chet! Hire Dave!

 

Feb. 04, 2010, 4:02AM

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Given the state of the economy, and the scary unemployment picture, it's important for Central Texas to have a strong, skilled leader in Washington to fight for us. While I'm a Republican, and respect the gentlemen running for this seat, I'll still have to vote for Chet Edwards in the end. Though I disagree with him on many issues, when it comes down to it, there's not a chance in Hell that a rookie Congressman is going to bring jobs to Central Texas like a 10 term veteran. Sorry guys, in the end, it's jobs that matter; and only Chet Edwards can guarantee that we'll see jobs come back home.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 9:41PM

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Im a big republican!!!You guys are wasting your time,,None of you can beat Chet! *It is what it is!! You boys just dont have the gun powder to beat the guy..Bunch of us will closet for Chet...He does a good job for Waco.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 8:26PM

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I attended the debate also and when I walked in I was undecided, When the debate was over I picked the candidate I will vote for in the primary and that is Dave McIntyre. Dave showed real leadership, knowledge and has the experience we need to represent my family in DC. Thank you for the sponsors of the event. They had one of the best formats I have ever seen here in McLennan County.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 8:26PM

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I attended the debate also and when I walked in I was undecided, When the debate was over I picked the candidate I will vote for in the primary and that is Dave McIntyre. Dave showed real leadership, knowledge and has the experience we need to represent my family in DC. Thank you for the sponsors of the event. They had one of the best formats I have ever seen here in McLennan County.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 6:54PM

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I was at the forum and it was a bunch of "me too" except for Wilson and Mcintire fighting over private vs public sector. This is actually pretty simple. Flores is the rich guy from Houston who is trying to buy the election, and who will listen to Washington and not us. Mcintire is a know-it-all professor who talks down to us and will do what he wants, not what we want, because he's the smartest guy. Wilson is some guy nobody knows outside if a handful of people in Waco, and he thinks we need to be more moderate; no thanks! Delasandro can't win; nice guy, generally right on issues, but he can't win. Curnock is the only guy who has been here in the community working with us for 30 years. He is one of us, and he listens to us (I went to his health care town hall back in August too). He is right on the issues, and he will fight for us when we need him to, not just when it's easy. The other 4 were hiding under a rock in 2008. I know it's a new year, but come on, they couldn't even donate? And now they expect us to believe they will fight for us in Washington? Sorry Chuck, that dog won't hunt ...

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 2:43PM

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Who will bring more white-collar industry & better lifestyle services to gentrify Waco into more of a Fort Worth or Austin demographic???

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 11:06AM

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Chuck Wilson is the sharpest crayon in the box from what I saw last night. I imagine he can bring home the pork to this congressional district just as well as Chet has. I don't get the impression that Wilson will vote the party line for the Republicans any more than Chet has for the Democrats, so he'll appeal to the moderate voters. I don't see how Chet can win in 10'. The Democrats aren't happy with him because Chet underestimates the importance of Democratic issues to his Democratic voters. They probably won't bother to show up at the polls in 2010 unless they do it to vote for Governor or John Mabry. The tea party fools, despite embarrassing themselves, have exposed Chet for caring more about his re-election than for his constituency. The Republicans might actually have a viable candidate to run against him (Wilson is a formidable appointment at least). If Chet doesn't appeal to his base pretty soon, he needs to start deciding where he wants to live for his retirement. Something tells me it won't be Waco. Democrats in Chet's district have been pushed down and told to keep quite, for the good of keeping Chet, for so long that I don't think he can rely on them anymore. His lack of support on health care reform was a huge slap in their face, and nothing he is saying now makes it sound like he's going to vote for the final bill. He's playing the re-election game without any regard for his base, and it's going to cost him the election unless he finds a way to redeem himself with more than procedural and appropriation votes. This is the best chance Republicans have had to take back this seat. Let's hope when they do it, it's with someone that will actually do a good job. Chuck Wilson.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 10:31AM

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As for national security, it doesn't get any better than Chet Edwards. Ask Fort Hood and the thousands upon thousands of vets that support him...Oh wait, Fort Hood lost one of the best representatives they ever had in an effort by the Republican controlled State House to get rid of Chet...hmmm. Now that's patriotic.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 10:28AM

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with all the ills in the country and and in our state these fools still want to battle about who is more anti-abortion. Give me a break. They are simply pandering to the local yocals who would rather starve and have their kids remain in a sub-subpar educational system. unbelievable. I am not happy with chet lately but when I see things like this...You get my vote again Mr. Edwards.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 10:19AM

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I have played golf with Cheat several times over the years he doesn't count very good. I always wondered why? Chet voted against Healthcare after it didn't matter. We don't need Gov. ran Healthcare, would be like Social Security broke.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 10:04AM

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Chet didn't vote for the healthcare reform plan(mistake). But, he is still a legend in Waco. Chet has saved more jobs, and more lives(by saving jobs and preventing suicide) than anybody within the state of Texas. These posers here are coming with the same 'ol 1980's yada yada yada. Nobody wants to hear that.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 9:54AM

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Keep an eye on Chuck Wilson he is a "KEEPER" Good all around person, family man and will be strong on National Security. Has our best interest at heart. We need a good Texan in that seat, Chet is not that man anymore. He was at one time, not now.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 9:51AM

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I like that fellow Flores. Vote For Life. I am adopted, I could have very well been a statistic, but no my mother CHOSE to have me and place me for adoption. I have lived to Praise and Thank God for influencing her decision. I AM AN ABORTION SURVIVOR.

 

Feb. 03, 2010, 8:37AM

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Please support Chet Pelosi.

 





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