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Home > Completely 'Lost' > Archives > 2009 > May > 14 > Entry

Touched by a Jacob

They have a few theories that could blow up in their faces, but Chris Oliver and Ken Sury will take that chance as they tackle the “Lost” season-five finale “The Incident.” Click photos to enlarge.

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Ken: I have to start at the whole “That’s not Locke” storyline. I mean, sure the writers have hinted at that, with comments by Richard Alpert like “You seem different,” but I attributed all that to a resurrected, cocksure Locke. But now Ben’s words to Sun of “dead is dead” when telling her how Locke scared the crap out of him with his return seem to be the truest statement he’s ever uttered.

What are we supposed to make of this? Did this guy who promised to kill Jacob back whenever (was that the Black Rock they saw approaching in the distance?) need someone else to physically do the slaying? Is that the loophole he spoke of? If he has taken other forms (Mr. Eko’s dead brother, for instance) why did this “Locke” seem to be the real deal in that he appeared to have his memories?

Chris: First off, I loved the opening scene. It set the stage for the likely conflict of season six. Jacob and this mystery guy with their eons-long conflict must be the war we’ve been hearing about. They’re like Cain and Abel, except Cain can’t do the killing himself. I’m guessing the reason they can’t kill each other is the same reason Widmore and Ben can’t kill each other. What that reason is, we don’t know yet. And yes, I do think that is the Black Rock.

I was wondering if that guy was Mr. Eko’s brother too. Maybe when he becomes these people he downloads their memories. I think he may be Christian Shephard too. So I guess we are set up to have Locke and Ben as the bad guys in season six. For some reason, I think that’s awesome.

Ken: Boy, a Locke-Ben uber-teamup would be like Magneto and Doctor Doom pairing up to take on the Fantastic Four and X-Men. I will always say the best scenes this show offers is every time Terry O’Quinn and Michael Emerson share the screen. They are phenomenal in those roles.

So what did you think about that whole “let me touch you” business with Jacob? He only helped nudge Hurley into coming back to the island (and left him a fine guitar, to boot) while in the case of Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Locke and Sun and Jin, it was all before Oceanic 815 hit the air.

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Chris: Oh yeah, he did touch every one of those characters. He must have just grazed Jack when he gave him the candy bar. He touched Sayid too. What is the significance of that? Does that set them on their path to the island? Did Jacob resuscitate Locke after his fall?

From that opening scene, I get the feeling Jacob keeps reaching out to people outside the island, and the Mystery Guy hates that, because those people always fight, destroy and corrupt, in his words.

Ken: There did seem to be that aspect of it. Perhaps Jacob likes to interact with people like some mad psychiatrist to see how they respond in certain situations while the other guy just wanted to be left the hell alone.

So is Ilana’s group the “good guys” as they claim? At least Richard had the answer to the question “What lies in the shadow of the statue?” even though his response was Greek to me (what that Latin? an Egyptian dialect? Swahili?). Are they the ones mentioned in that cryptic “They’re coming” that Jacob warned Locke about as he died? Is Jacob really dead?

Chris: Thanks to the Internets, I know what Richard said. It was Latin (remember, the Others speak Latin) and he said “He who protects/saves us,” referring to Jacob I assume. So Ilana’s group must be with Jacob. And Ilana probably wants to kill Locke, so he better find a way out of that room. I wonder if Widmore was against Jacob, meaning he sided with Mystery Guy. Widmore does hate the outsiders.

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Ken: I figured it was Latin, just wondered if maybe the writers wanted to sneak something new in (especially considering the speculation on Richard having an Egyptian heritage and that statue, which at one time held an ankh symbol). Love that Internet!

Widmore probably got crossways with Jacob, which is probably the main reason he got booted off the island.

I agree, Locke and Ben had better find an escape route. Pronto!

Chris: Yeah, Richard got the note from Jacob saying kick Widmore to the curb. The actor who plays Widmore is part of the full-time cast next season, so he will clearly play a big role.

Ken: Moving on, it’s nice to finally get some Bernard and Rose … and Vincent! … scenes to find out where they had been all this time. I really thought a few others of the “Losties” in that group would have survived the arrow attack, but it looks they are it. Of course, now you can get the whole argument about did any of them survive once Juliet pounded the nuke into blowing up. Considering there’s 16 hours of the show left, you have to figure at least part of the Jack/Faraday plan worked.

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Chris: Yeah, it was cool to see Bernard and Rose living like a jungle Santa and Mrs. Claus, except instead of bringing people gifts they just eat Dharma canned beans. Although that scene did feel a little obligatory, like “there, we showed you Bernard and Rose and Vincent, now let’s move on.”

So Juliet must be dead, but shouldn’t they all be dead? If the blast changed the future and put them all back in their places, shouldn’t it put Juliet back in her place, too? (Since Elizabeth Mitchell has a new gig, I’m sure Juliet is gone.)

The big question we have to debate until season six is did the blast stop the incident, or cause the incident?

Ken: Good question. That was a great scene where Miles basically says, “Uh, guys, have we really thought this through?” Then they go all A-Team on Radzinsky, Phil and the Dharma security detail (did it look to you like Jack took out half of them by himself?)

Is it possible that most of season six could be off-island, depending on what setting off the bomb really did? It makes my head hurt thinking where they could go with this. I’m also wondering if the electromagnetic pocket of energy somehow minimizes the blast so that Richard Alpert telling Sun that he saw her friends die in 1977 is true, at least to his perspective (though that would imply either he was close enough to see the action or came on the scene right after to find out).

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Chris: The gun fights were fun but a taaaaad ridiculous. Jack just stood there and took people out while the Dharma guys had the aim of Stormtroopers. But it was still cool.

I have no freakin clue where they go from here. If it happens like Faraday said it would, then everyone is back in the right place. The Swan Station never existed, the electromagnetic buildup isn’t a threat anymore. Or, on the other hand, maybe the atomic blast stopped the electromagnetism temporarily, and gave Dharma a chance to contain it. So basically it happens just like it is suppose to happen, the Swan Station is built, Desmond ends up button pushing, etc, etc.

By the way, how the hell will they get Desmond back into this?

Ken: I was really hoping for a Desmond scene, but with everything else that happened, it would have been hard to squeeze that in.

Juliet getting pulled into the hole was gut-wrenching, especially after we finally saw her and Sawyer in cohabitative bliss this season with the Dharma Initiative. Some things aren’t meant to be, as she and sister Rachel learned in their parents’ divorce. I thought Juliet fell far enough to be dead on impact in that drilling hole, but in true Lost fashion she had enough left to set off the bomb. And then there’s Phil, impaled by a steel pole. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy, but his death wasn’t as satisfying as I hoped, perhaps because I was caught up in Juliet’s peril.

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Chris: The scene with Sawyer trying to save Juliet was so powerful. How many TV shows have pulled off a scene like that? You usually only get that in movies. Yeah, Juliet surviving the fall was far-fetched, but whatever. She was the one flashback where Jacob never showed up, right? Poor Juliet, she really lived a painful life. At least she had those three good years.

My wife thought Phil would shoot at Sawyer, and the bullet would be pulled back by the magnet right into his head. Maybe she should write for the show.

Ken: I like the way your wife thinks. That would have been awesome! So, how much should we obsess in the meantime on what the final season will bring?

Chris`: We probably shouldn’t obsess at all. Just let it go. Life moves on. Who am I kidding, I’ll obsess until season six starts, and then kick into hyber-obsessing. At least a year from now we’ll have all the answers. Or not.

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By RD

May 15, 2009 10:27 AM | Link to this | Report comment abuse

An interesting thought: If Jack’s/Daniel’s plan worked, then Locke never came to the island, and therefore couldn’t have killed Jacob.

By Mr. McGee

May 16, 2009 6:03 AM | Link to this | Report comment abuse

Thanks so much to Chris and Ken for providing such informative and insightful commentary on Lost.

This is by far the best blog on this website.

By Brandon

July 27, 2009 4:06 AM | Link to this | Report comment abuse

Did you guys keep up with the Lost related events at 2009’s Comic Con? Would be nice to get a post discussing what was talked about and maybe some links to the new video footage. I caught the new Hurley centric commercial over on Youtube and wish I could dive into one of those Outback chicken combos right now.

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