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Touched by a Jacob
They have a few theories that could blow up in their faces, but Chris Oliver and Ken Sury will take that chance as they tackle the “Lost” season-five finale “The Incident.” Click photos to enlarge.
Ken: I have to start at the whole “That’s not Locke” storyline. I mean, sure the writers have hinted at that, with comments by Richard Alpert like “You seem different,” but I attributed all that to a resurrected, cocksure Locke. But now Ben’s words to Sun of “dead is dead” when telling her how Locke scared the crap out of him with his return seem to be the truest statement he’s ever uttered.
What are we supposed to make of this? Did this guy who promised to kill Jacob back whenever (was that the Black Rock they saw approaching in the distance?) need someone else to physically do the slaying? Is that the loophole he spoke of? If he has taken other forms (Mr. Eko’s dead brother, for instance) why did this “Locke” seem to be the real deal in that he appeared to have his memories?
Chris: First off, I loved the opening scene. It set the stage for the likely conflict of season six. Jacob and this mystery guy with their eons-long conflict must be the war we’ve been hearing about. They’re like Cain and Abel, except Cain can’t do the killing himself. I’m guessing the reason they can’t kill each other is the same reason Widmore and Ben can’t kill each other. What that reason is, we don’t know yet. And yes, I do think that is the Black Rock.
I was wondering if that guy was Mr. Eko’s brother too. Maybe when he becomes these people he downloads their memories. I think he may be Christian Shephard too. So I guess we are set up to have Locke and Ben as the bad guys in season six. For some reason, I think that’s awesome.
Ken: Boy, a Locke-Ben uber-teamup would be like Magneto and Doctor Doom pairing up to take on the Fantastic Four and X-Men. I will always say the best scenes this show offers is every time Terry O’Quinn and Michael Emerson share the screen. They are phenomenal in those roles.
So what did you think about that whole “let me touch you” business with Jacob? He only helped nudge Hurley into coming back to the island (and left him a fine guitar, to boot) while in the case of Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Locke and Sun and Jin, it was all before Oceanic 815 hit the air.
Chris: Oh yeah, he did touch every one of those characters. He must have just grazed Jack when he gave him the candy bar. He touched Sayid too. What is the significance of that? Does that set them on their path to the island? Did Jacob resuscitate Locke after his fall?
From that opening scene, I get the feeling Jacob keeps reaching out to people outside the island, and the Mystery Guy hates that, because those people always fight, destroy and corrupt, in his words.
Ken: There did seem to be that aspect of it. Perhaps Jacob likes to interact with people like some mad psychiatrist to see how they respond in certain situations while the other guy just wanted to be left the hell alone.
So is Ilana’s group the “good guys” as they claim? At least Richard had the answer to the question “What lies in the shadow of the statue?” even though his response was Greek to me (what that Latin? an Egyptian dialect? Swahili?). Are they the ones mentioned in that cryptic “They’re coming” that Jacob warned Locke about as he died? Is Jacob really dead?
Chris: Thanks to the Internets, I know what Richard said. It was Latin (remember, the Others speak Latin) and he said “He who protects/saves us,” referring to Jacob I assume. So Ilana’s group must be with Jacob. And Ilana probably wants to kill Locke, so he better find a way out of that room. I wonder if Widmore was against Jacob, meaning he sided with Mystery Guy. Widmore does hate the outsiders.
Ken: I figured it was Latin, just wondered if maybe the writers wanted to sneak something new in (especially considering the speculation on Richard having an Egyptian heritage and that statue, which at one time held an ankh symbol). Love that Internet!
Widmore probably got crossways with Jacob, which is probably the main reason he got booted off the island.
I agree, Locke and Ben had better find an escape route. Pronto!
Chris: Yeah, Richard got the note from Jacob saying kick Widmore to the curb. The actor who plays Widmore is part of the full-time cast next season, so he will clearly play a big role.
Ken: Moving on, it’s nice to finally get some Bernard and Rose … and Vincent! … scenes to find out where they had been all this time. I really thought a few others of the “Losties” in that group would have survived the arrow attack, but it looks they are it. Of course, now you can get the whole argument about did any of them survive once Juliet pounded the nuke into blowing up. Considering there’s 16 hours of the show left, you have to figure at least part of the Jack/Faraday plan worked.
Chris: Yeah, it was cool to see Bernard and Rose living like a jungle Santa and Mrs. Claus, except instead of bringing people gifts they just eat Dharma canned beans. Although that scene did feel a little obligatory, like “there, we showed you Bernard and Rose and Vincent, now let’s move on.”
So Juliet must be dead, but shouldn’t they all be dead? If the blast changed the future and put them all back in their places, shouldn’t it put Juliet back in her place, too? (Since Elizabeth Mitchell has a new gig, I’m sure Juliet is gone.)
The big question we have to debate until season six is did the blast stop the incident, or cause the incident?
Ken: Good question. That was a great scene where Miles basically says, “Uh, guys, have we really thought this through?” Then they go all A-Team on Radzinsky, Phil and the Dharma security detail (did it look to you like Jack took out half of them by himself?)
Is it possible that most of season six could be off-island, depending on what setting off the bomb really did? It makes my head hurt thinking where they could go with this. I’m also wondering if the electromagnetic pocket of energy somehow minimizes the blast so that Richard Alpert telling Sun that he saw her friends die in 1977 is true, at least to his perspective (though that would imply either he was close enough to see the action or came on the scene right after to find out).
Chris: The gun fights were fun but a taaaaad ridiculous. Jack just stood there and took people out while the Dharma guys had the aim of Stormtroopers. But it was still cool.
I have no freakin clue where they go from here. If it happens like Faraday said it would, then everyone is back in the right place. The Swan Station never existed, the electromagnetic buildup isn’t a threat anymore. Or, on the other hand, maybe the atomic blast stopped the electromagnetism temporarily, and gave Dharma a chance to contain it. So basically it happens just like it is suppose to happen, the Swan Station is built, Desmond ends up button pushing, etc, etc.
By the way, how the hell will they get Desmond back into this?
Ken: I was really hoping for a Desmond scene, but with everything else that happened, it would have been hard to squeeze that in.
Juliet getting pulled into the hole was gut-wrenching, especially after we finally saw her and Sawyer in cohabitative bliss this season with the Dharma Initiative. Some things aren’t meant to be, as she and sister Rachel learned in their parents’ divorce. I thought Juliet fell far enough to be dead on impact in that drilling hole, but in true Lost fashion she had enough left to set off the bomb. And then there’s Phil, impaled by a steel pole. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy, but his death wasn’t as satisfying as I hoped, perhaps because I was caught up in Juliet’s peril.
Chris: The scene with Sawyer trying to save Juliet was so powerful. How many TV shows have pulled off a scene like that? You usually only get that in movies. Yeah, Juliet surviving the fall was far-fetched, but whatever. She was the one flashback where Jacob never showed up, right? Poor Juliet, she really lived a painful life. At least she had those three good years.
My wife thought Phil would shoot at Sawyer, and the bullet would be pulled back by the magnet right into his head. Maybe she should write for the show.
Ken: I like the way your wife thinks. That would have been awesome! So, how much should we obsess in the meantime on what the final season will bring?
Chris`: We probably shouldn’t obsess at all. Just let it go. Life moves on. Who am I kidding, I’ll obsess until season six starts, and then kick into hyber-obsessing. At least a year from now we’ll have all the answers. Or not.
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10 best ‘Lost’ endings ever
The season five finale is Wednesday, and once we hear that trademark “thump” at then end we have to wait until January to find out what it all means, leaving us confused, frustrated, and yelling at the TV. Which is the reason we are addicted to this show, the great endings that blow our minds and leave us wanting more. So to prepare for “The Incident,” have compiled what I consider to be the 10 best “Lost” endings. And yes, most of them involve Locke and/or Ben, but that’s “Lost.”
What happen: Jack lets Ben, then known as Henry Gale, out for some cereal. Ben tells Jack and Locke about the map he drew for Ana Lucia to his alleged balloon, and hints that he sent her into a trap. He then asks “Got any milk?”
Comment: This is a personal favorite of mine. It was the first time we saw Ben demonstrate his mind-screwing powers. Yeah, he had messed with Locke some before, but this time he really let it fly, and anyone who still believed Ben’s Henry Gale story was more of a sucker than Jack and Locke.
What happen: Michael, Sawyer, Jin and Walt are on the raft, and they detect another ship on the radar. They fire the flare, and a boat comes to the raft. It looks like they are rescued, but it’s the Others, who steal Walt and blow up the raft. Meanwhile, Locke, Jack, Hurley and Kate blow the lid of the hatch, and we realize we won’t know what’s inside until season two.
Comments: We thought for a second the Others were just a figment of Danielle’s crazy mind, but they exist, and they have a boat. And they love stealing children. Yes, it was frustrating as hell having to wait all summer to find out what was in the hatch, but at least we didn’t have to wait until January like we do now.
What happen: At Jacob’s cabin, Ben talks to an empty chair he claims is holding Jacob. Locke thinks it’s a joke, tells Ben off and turns to leave, but he hears a voice say “help me.” Locke asks if it was Ben, and he says no. Locke turns on a flashlight and the cabin begins shaking violently with objects thrown around the room. Ben tells Locke it was Jacob. Later, Ben shows Locke the hole with the dead Dharma people, and Ben shoots Locke and leaves him for dead.
Comment: We got our first look at Jacob, who appeared to be a spirit inhabiting a derelict cabin, although we still aren’t entirely sure. We saw what happen to the Dharma folk, and we witnessed Ben’s first failed attempt to kill Locke.
What happen: The button doesn’t get pushed, and the electromagnetic energy released causes the station to collapse on itself. Desmond turns the fail safe key, and the whole island shakes and releases a blinding light. Then, in what appears to be an outpost in Antarctica, a couple of Portuguese men get a signal on their computer. They call Penny Widmore and tell her “we found it.”
Comment: We never thought we’d get the answer to what happens if you don’t push the button, and I guess we still aren’t really sure. But it put our fears to rest that it was just a test, and it gave us the first indication that forces outside the island are looking for it.
What happen: After a long pursuit of Ethan, Jack and Kate find Charlie hanging from a tree. After his resuscitation attempts failed, Kate has Jack give up, but he furiously tries again. He succeeds this time and Charlie comes back to life. Meanwhile, Boone is about to head back to camp, and Locke throws him a flashlight. The light hits the ground and makes a “clang” sound. Locke digs around and finds metal, which is the hatch to the Swan Station.
Comment: Yeah, the CPR scene rips off “The Abyss,” but so what, it was still moving, mainly because we believed the show would be crazy enough to kill Charlie (which they did, eventually.) And when it seemed they couldn’t top that, Locke and Boone find that mysterious metal object underground that would be the obsession for the rest of the season.
What happen: Ben kills Keamy, which triggers the dead-man’s switch and blows up the freighter. Ben then crawls into the caves behind the Orchid and turns the frozen wheel, which moves the island, leaving the survivors on the helicopter with no where to land, so they crash into the ocean. Penny finds them, and Jack tells everyone they need to lie about what happen. Cut to the funeral home, where it’s revealed Locke was in the coffin.
Comment: If you say you’re going to move the island, you better move the island. Thankfully the show came through on that crazy premise. And we finally got the answer to the season-long mystery of who was in the coffin.
What happen: A despondent Locke sees no hope in getting the others to come back to the island, so he plans to kill himself. Ben stops him, but once Locke gives up the name of Eloise, Ben strangles Locke and creates a fake suicide scene. Cut to the island, where Locke looks at a passed out Ben and says “That’s the man who killed me.”
Comment: Speaking of Locke in a coffin, here’s how he got there. It wasn’t surprising it was Ben who killed him, but watching the scene unfold from Ben reassuring Locke to garroting him was gut wrenching.
What happen: A recovered Michael sees Ana Lucia crying in a chair. She says she tried to kill Henry Gale but she couldn’t do it. Michael says he’ll do it, takes the gun, gets the combo to the cell, then shoots Ana, shoots Libby when she comes in looking for a blanket, then opens the cell and shoots himself in the arm so Henry can escape.
Comment: This was the first episode my wife and I watched on our TiVo, and we had to re-watch it about five times once it was over. It may still be the most jaw-dropping ending, mainly because it was so cruel to kill Libby right when her relationship with Hurley was blooming.
What happen: In a flashback, we discover Locke is paraplegic and trying to go on a walkabout in Australia. He’s turned away, and Locke starts screaming that it’s his destiny. Cut to the day of the crash: Locke wiggles his toe and realizes he can get on his feet, and he starts smiling joyously.
Comment: Here we were thinking the island was a jungle version of hell. Turns out it’s heaven for people with extreme health problems. Before this episode, Locke was just a creepy guy on the periphery. But after this, we realized he was the main character. The scene with a happy Locke contrasted with the carnage of the plane crash is one of the most striking.
What happen: Locke throws a knife in Naomi’s back to prevent her from calling the boat. Jack picks up the phone, and despite Locke’s threat to shoot him, calls the boat. Help is on the way, Jack looks triumphant, then we cut to what we think is a flashback with raggedy Jack. He meets someone near the airport, and it turns out to be Kate, and we realize it was a flashforward all along. It ends with Jack bellowing “We have to go back!”
Comment: I guess we should have known this was the future, but 99 percent of us were completely fooled. The flashforwards gave the show a new lease on life, and they showed you can leave the island, but the island doesn’t leave you.
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Locke’s gonna do what? Jack’s gonna do what?
Ken Sury and Chris Oliver can’t decide who’s got the crazier plan on Lost — Jack Shepard or John Locke. We try to stay sane as we tackle last night’s episode, “Follow the Leader.” Click photos to enlarge.
Chris: As we begin, let’s review how the previous plans of Jack and Sayid have panned out as the dynamic duo plan to stuff Jughead down the Swan’s throat. In season two, they planned to surprise the Others by Jack coming on land and Sayid by sea. Fail. In season three, they took on the Others again in an attempt to connect with the freighter. It worked, but it also made things worse, so that’s a bust. Do they redeem themselves this time?
Ken: I hope so, but that doesn’t mean we’ll see resolution by the season five finale. In fact, it’ll probably end on a note that makes it look like the island and everyone on it is going to hell in a handbasket (or whatever metaphor you’d like to use). My question is: Who of that group knows how to detonate a nuclear bomb? Maybe Jack just plans on banging on it; preferably with his big, stubborn head.
Kate seems to think Jack is one big idiot for trying this, or maybe she’s just worried that if he is successful in this “Star Trek” let’s-set-back-the-clock scenario it means she lands in L.A. as a guest of the federal marshal and is headed for a long time in jail. I’m just surprised she’s so openly hostile to Jack about it.
Chris: Yeah, I can see where Kate is coming from. If you change the bad things you also change the good things. But when she says stuff like Jack was right before and Locke was wrong, she loses me. Do you think Sayid regretted saving her life when he found out Kate saved Little Ben? Speaking of Sayid, I’m guessing he’s the one who can detonate the bomb. Because Sayid can do anything, except live a nontragic life.
So now Kate’s on the sub with Juliet and Sawyer. They just can’t shake her. Obviously they get back to the island somehow. I just hope Juliet or Sawyer kills Phil.
Ken: The promos for next week made it clear that Sawyer, Juliet and Kate are back on the island. I loved how Kate was put between Sawyer and Juliet as they were shackled on the sub. Not a terribly subtle nod to the love triangle. I don’t imagine they can commandeer a sub. More likely the sub is turned around and headed back to the island for some reason.
I was a bit disappointed it was obviously a computer-generated image of the sub leaving; guess the show’s producers have to cut costs somewhere.
But it sure looks like a Sawyer-Juliet-Kate vs. Jack-Sayid smackdown next week. And yeah, Phil needs to bite it.
By the way, I loved Sayid’s outlook on setting off the bomb. If it doesn’t work, at least it puts him out of his misery.
Chris: So what are Miles, Hurley and Jin going to do? I don’t know if the Miles-Pierre Chang relationship really works for me. I like the characters, but I don’t feel the father-son vibe between them like I do with the other father-son pairings on the show. But it really isn’t central to the story so it’s not a big deal.
Yeah, I have to agree with Sayid’s logic. After all they’ve been through, an atomic bomb isn’t that big of a deal.
Ken: I completely agree on the Miles-Pierre Chang connection; maybe it’s the actors, but I’m not feeling it, either. At this point, it really only provides a reason for Pierre Chang to send his wife and young son off the island. I’m guessing that the impending incident will be the reason Chang later has that limp arm seen in those Dharma training videos.
Chris: While Jack wants to blow up nukes, Locke wants to kill Jacob. Locke seems crazier. Did the island tell him to do this? Is Jacob like a virus the island needs to be rid of? And how do you think Ben will take this? I don’t know if I like the new downtrodden Ben.
Ken: Is this really a changed Locke? He sure seems to think he is. Of course, cheating death might give you a new perspective on things. I find it interesting that Locke in the past could never bring himself to kill someone, even his father when given the chance. Although he did toss a knife into Naomi’s back, I don’t count that as Locke intentionally trying to kill her, but trying to stop her from contacting the ship. She didn’t die right away anyhow.
I actually like the tables being turned on Ben. He’s no longer pulling most of the strings and doesn’t seem to have a master plan, but appears desperately trying to figure out a move. Man, I love every scene between Terry O’Quinn and Michael Emerson. They are so good in their roles.
Do you think there really is a Jacob? Or at least a physical entity that can be killed?
Chris: I think here is a Jacob, and I think we are going to see him next week. Locke is a rabble-rouser now, trying to get a populist Others movement to demand rights from Jacob. It seems like a dangerous game, especially if Richard doesn’t like it.
What did you think of Ben sucking up to Locke, giving him intel on Richard? For some reason I think it’s genuine, he really wants to help Locke, most likely because of Alex’s threat.
Ken: It would be good to actually see Jacob after five years (in real time, not the Lost timeline) of talk about the man and maybe seeing his eyeball through the shack knothole.
As for Ben, I think he’s constantly trying to get the lay of the land and will work with whoever can help him stay on top. I’d never play poker with the guy.
Chris: I think Ben is in strange territory. It’s the first time he may not be holding a trump card. I liked the scene when Locke and Ben are watching Richard operate on time-traveling Locke. You can tell Ben is getting frustrated that the island favors Locke. And Locke keeps rubbing it in: “Doesn’t the island talk to you? You’ve never seen Jacob, have you?” Although I think Ben knows who the other people on Flight 316 are, so he’s got that going for him.
Ken: Obviously, those other Flight 316ers are going to be a major thorn for our Losties in the season finale. Guess we’ll also find out what’s in the big storage crate they brought. My thought: Weapons. Lots of weapons.
Chris: I can’t even wrap my mind around what could happen in the finale. They have so many threads I don’t see how two hours will be enough. All I know is I don’t think it will end well. Not well at all.
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A taste of ‘Follow the Leader’
Only eights days are left in season five of “Lost.” We got “Follow the Leader” Wednesday night, and I’m guessing the leader in this case is Jack but I hope I’m wrong, and “The Incident” next week, which hopefully wraps up the mystery of what happened at the Swan Station. Here’s some clips from “Follow the Leader.” They are surprisingly meaty, so you may want to avoid them. The only one that is really spoilery is the last one. To show honor among bloggers, I did pull these from docarzt.com, who got them from ABC. For some reason ABC doesn’t let me pull the video files which really ticks me off but you don’t care about that so here we go:
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Take it on the run, Losties
Ken Sury and Chris Oliver try to determine if there are any constants in the latest Lost episode, “The Variable.” Click on the images for larger versions.
Ken: Who would have thought that such a Faraday-centric episode would have this much action and gunfire? Since Lost has us bouncing all through time anyhow, let’s start at the end of the episode. Sure looks to me like Daniel is about to go the way of adult Charlotte and die on the island. You agree or is some island mojo resurrection in the offing?
Chris: No, I think he is dead, especially after they foreshadowed it five minutes earlier with Faraday saying “Anyone of us can die.” The flashbacks filled in a lot of the blanks we had about his life, although we didn’t get more specifics about his work. I guess we didn’t need it. So now we get all this variable business, which boils down to people have free will and they can change things, which seems to go directly counter to everything we’ve been told so far. Do you think they can change the future or that it will go the way it has always gone?
Ken: I almost think they have to be able to change the future to get that satisfying ending that Lost’s producers say we’ll have when this show wraps up. Assuming, of course, that we can believe anything from the mouths of the those guys. I think it’ll be interesting to see whether the Losties think they have a chance or just believe they will be banging their heads against the wall.
Of course, it’s interesting to me that Daniel decided he could change the future after so long saying that it’s going to happen no matter what. Well, it appears that the electromagnetic breach that Daniel wanted to prevent is going to happen after all since Dan has joined the daisy-pushing brigade. Man, that Eloise was a trigger-happy woman in 1977!
Chris: They only have four hours to stop it. I guess Jack and Kate (and Sayid, judging by the promo) will try to continue Faraday’s plan. Jack and Kate have been the screw-ups since day one. Now they got Sawyer in trouble. I like how Juliet was quick to snuff out any spark that may have still existed between Kate and Sawyer. Here’s the fence code, don’t let the sonic waves hit you on the way out.
Ken: I really enjoyed those scenes. I thought Elizabeth Mitchell was phenomenal that whole time, keeping her emotions in check when Sawyer reverts to old form by calling Kate “Freckles” and Daniel “H.G. Wells,” and her sense of sadness but realization that the life they’ve enjoyed for three years is getting jettisoned. Of course, don’t you think they knew the happy days were going to be short-lived, knowing the island’s history?
Chris: I think they forgot it would be short-lived. They were living in Utopia. I don’t think they realized how quickly things would unravel. I think my vote would be to sneak off in the sub. Although Hurley is right, it would be wishy-washy to come back to the island just to leave. Why did Hurley come back anyway? I hope they deal with that before next season.
Ken: I really hope to get that answer as well. Hurley was so adamant against returning, it had to be something major to get him back. Maybe one of his dead friends convinced him to go back.
Chris: My guess is Charlie. Because of the whole guitar thing.
Ken:I agree that a Charlie sighting gets Hurley to go back. As for other sightings, I would still like to find out about Bernard and Rose and the rest.
Chris: The actors who play Bernard and Rose are in the finale, so you’ll get your answer. I just hope Vincent comes back.
Ken: For an episode that started with Desmond being wheeled into the hospital with a gunshot wound, the show waited until nearly the end to come back to him and Penny. I was worried he might die despite Ms. Hawking’s assertion that the island wasn’t done with him yet. However, beyond answering the question of what happened to Dez after Ben shot him, we didn’t see the Desmond story advanced much and it seemed more of a way to bridge his ties to Daniel, Ms. Hawking and Charles Widmore. Did you want a little more Desmond story in the episode?
Chris: We need more Desmond this season. They guy has been on the sidelines they whole time, except for “Jughead.” I still don’t see how they are going to get Desmond in the game. He says he won’t leave Penny. He can’t get back to the island, as far as we know. Widmore must have some plan for him.
Ken: You have to figure Desmond comes into play somewhere. I just don’t think the show will put a guy whose mind skips through time on the sidelines for long. But I really want to see a Penelope-Daddy Widmore face-to-face. Although he’s liable to get his face slapped again. I wasn’t surprised that Daniel is/was Widmore’s child with Eloise. What are your thoughts?
Chris: It was fairly predictable. But when did they have Faraday? On the lsland? But Faraday didn’t get a nosebleed when they were jumping through time, so that meant he wasn’t as connected to the island. Did Eloise get banished with Widmore? Eloise must have raised Faraday in America because of his lack of an accent. I suppose Eloise made it her duty to raise Daniel to follow through on his destiny to get to the island where she shoots him. She was raising a constant instead of a variable.
Ken:Maybe Eloise kept her distance from Daniel during his years growing up because she knew she would shoot a man who claimed to be her son, and over the years realized that would come true. Hence, the “sacrifice” she mentioned to Widmore before slapping him. I had completely forgotten about Dan’s memory lapses and was glad to see the show return to that. Now ol’ Dan is just a memory, dead before he was born (unless Eloise was pregnant when she shot him).
Chris: Well, Daniel has to be over 30, so he should be born already. My previous question still apply. And what about Penny, he was clearly already born by then. Is Penny Eloise’s child too, and her and Faraday were split up like Luke and Leia?
Ken:That’s what I thought, too. Maybe next week we’ll see Eloise go into one those huts to check on her young son Daniel and think “Did I just kill you?” Maybe that’s what makes her want to leave the island. Please, let’s not do a Luke and Leia thing with Penelope and Daniel. I hope someone else is Penny’s mum. Isn’t it enough to have the same absentee father?
Chris: We already had separated siblings with Jack and Claire. So that fulfills the producers drive to have as many “Star Wars” connections as possible.
Ken: I do like some of the interesting connections (remember when Locke was the home inspector for Sayid’s Nadia, for example?) but let’s not stretch it too thin.
Surely, we’ll see Jack and the gang come back to save Sawyer and Juliet from Radzinsky and his crazed loons. Or maybe Hurley can grab another Dharma van and crash it into the house the way he ran over Ben’s lackeys before.
Chris: I don’t think saving Sawyer is high on Jack’s priority list. I think he’s more concerned with following through with Faraday’s plan. And we all know how good Jack is at fixing things. The island hasn’t got a chance.
Ken: LOL!
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Season five death watch
With only three episodes left in season five, the action is about to get pretty heavy. So it’s pretty much a guarantee a major character is going to die, along with a good number of secondary characters. So it’s time to lay down the odds on who is going to go. I’ll list the character name followed by the percentage of likelihood that character will become smoke monster chow.
Locke, Jack, Sayid, Ben — 0 percent: I’ll take out a bunch in one swoop. Locke already died and still lived. Besides, the island has his back. Jack has some unknown purpose that is probably a season six plot point. E! news confirmed Sayid will live. And come on, you can’t kill the main bad guy before the last season. That would just be stupid. So Ben will live.
Sawyer - 5 percent: There’s a small chance he could go, but because he is emerging as the main character, I doubt it.
Miles - 7 percent: We’re just getting to know him, so why kill him now? Besides, I don’t think his death would carry much emotional heft yet.
Faraday - 10 percent: He seems too important to the main mythology to get rid of.
Hurley, Kate- 10 percent: I doubt either one of these are dying, but there is a possibility the producers really want to shock us and knock one of these two off.
Desmond or Penny - 12 percent: Desmond hasn’t done much this season. Since the island isn’t done with him yet, he must make it back somehow. Wouldn’t make much sense to just kill him once he gets back. And Penny already survived an attack from Ben, so she’s probably OK.
Juliet - 50 percent: As you’ve probably heard, Elizabeth Mitchell is signed on to star in the pilot episode of ABC’s “V” reboot. It is supposedly a supporting role that won’t make it into the series as a whole, but that’s not for certain. Also, killing Juliet would be a pretty big emotional blow because of her relationship with Sawyer.
Jin or Sun - 60 percent: I don’t think it looks good for a reunion with these two. Jin will soon be in danger once Dharma finds out he is an impostor. And Sun is going through the jungle with Ben and Locke. That spells bad news.
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Kinda new, kinda not
Being the Lost fanatic that I am, I will be watching tonight’s Lost special episode “Lost: The Story of the Oceanic 6,” even though it’s not part of the regular series.
It looks like this is a recap episode, but one that’s packaged a bit differently from past recaps or the “enhanced” repeats that included explanatory notes.
The episode preview says this: “What happened to the Oceanic 6 and the rest of the island survivors in the three years after Ben moved the island; how Locke leaving the island may have helped stop the time rifts; what led to Locke’s death off the island.”
Will it really tell us something we don’t already know? It also would be great if scenes that didn’t make it into an episode are added here, but I doubt that’ll happen.
The ABC network site has added something that I think is kind of cool. It’s a Lost timeline that allows you to examine the show in order of episodes or “chronologically,” if such a thing truly exists for this show.
You also can watch an episode, read a recap, or download the ep via iTunes. An interesting concept.
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Happy 100th episode
The 100th episode of “Lost” is coming up April 29. The cast found this reason enough to celebrate. ABC posted some photos on their media site, and I’ve pulled them into a slideshow (click here) for you to check out. I also included some shots from the 100th episode, titled “The Variable,” which are a tiny bit spoilery, so you may want to avoid them.
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Some garlic mayo with your corpse?
Chris Oliver and Ken Sury try to avoid cleaning polar bear stalls by recapping “Some Like It Hoth.”
Chris: I’m not sure where to start with this episode. The central story was pretty good, but nothing mind blowing. Of course, the pairing of Miles and Hurley, the dueling dead-people-talkers, was brilliant. But the little nuggets of info on the periphery were great. I guess we’ll start with the main plot point, that Miles’ dad is Pierre Chang, aka Marvin Candle, aka “the guy from the movies.” What did you think of that?
Ken: We certainly had a sense that this could be Miles from the season opener when he see Marvin Candle/Pierre Chang get up to take care of a crying baby and he puts “Shotgun Willie” on the record player, but now that it’s out there for certain, I think this opens up a lot of interesting possibilities. Will Miles try to get to know his dad now that he has this chance? Will he end up spilling the beans? “Uh, Dr. Chang, I’m your kid from the future, and you’re gonna lose use of an arm one day, and that Ben kid is gonna grow up and wipe out the entire Dharma Initiative, and well, didn’t you think another Asian guy with the name Miles showing up on your island was a bit odd?”
Chris: Well, clearly Chang knows about time travel with his work at the Orchid. I’m guessing the reason Chang gets rid of his wife and baby Miles is because he knows the purge is coming, so he was saving them, not rejecting them. Again, “Lost” pulls the ol’ one-two on us. We get a character we think is, in Hurley’s words, a “douche,” but then when we see him reading to baby Miles we see he really cares about him, and Miles sees that too. Although it seems Chang and Radzinsky are doing human experiments at the Orchid. I’m guessing they are killing people then trying to send them into the future.
Ken: Do you think they really are killing people or just finding an interesting way to dispose of the bodies? Sounds like the dead guy that Miles gleaned information from was just a bit too close to an electromagnetic whatever that ripped the filling through his brain. I’m trying to imagine what that would feel like. Rather not think about it.
I did like to see the numbers — Hurley’s personal curse — return to the show even if they really don’t mean anything in the grand scheme of the show. Or maybe they do.
How many daddy issues is this show going to have? We have Hurley and Miles talking about theirs this episode, Jack and Christian has been brewing forever, Locke and his kidney-stealing, con-man father, Roger Linus and “currently-missing-but-I’ll-kill-you-later-Dad” Ben, Michael and his son Walt, Sawyer (only in the sense that his dad killed himself because Locke’s dad screwed him over), Kate blows up her second “daddy” because of his treatment of her and her mom, am I missing any?
Chris: You left out Widmore and Penny. Desmond has father-in-law issues. Maybe Sayid but we only got a glimpse at his dad. Oh yeah, Hurley and his dad, although that relationship seems to have healed. It is just chock full of them. I do think we will get a scene with Chang and Miles where Chang realizes it is his grown up son.
As for the dead guy, you’re right. He was killed by the filling in his teeth. Maybe we are close to answers about the electromagnetic power on the island.
Getting back to the numbers, another big reveal was the building of the Swan Station, or as we like to call it, “The Hatch.” They seem to be building it on the Others’ territory, which is going to lead to trouble.
Ken: Is the island not big enough to build all the stations on Dharma land? Or maybe because of the volatility of the station Dharma figures it’s better to keep it far away from them and if it blows up … or something … and takes out the Others in the process, well, that will make life easier.
Chris: OK, let’s talk about when Miles was taken by the people in the van. The guy who was talking to him, the one who asked about the shadow and the statue, is the guy who with Ilana on the Hydra Station island. I thought they were with Widmore, but that can’t be right because he told Miles not to work for Widmore. Is this a third group we don’t know about yet?
Ken: Yeah, what is in the shadow of the statue? Anubis’ toes? Your third group theory has me intrigued. It doesn’t seem to be Widmore’s team, then again, it seems like either people in the employ of Widmore or Ben are prone to just killing someone they deem to be in their way. Heck, they didn’t even rough up Miles but seemed to know about the pain in his heart. So who do you think has the better “power,” Hurley or Miles? Man, that cracked me up.
Chris: Hurley has the better power, but I think his power only works on people he knows (Mr. Eko, Charlie, etc). But it was good to see Hurley get his mojo back. He had been so gloomy this season, but this was the first episode were he acted like himself. I loved how he tried to get Miles and Chang together. And the highlight was the reveal that Hurley is writing The Empire Strikes Back. Although I don’t know what improvements he could make. If he wants to do improvements, he needs to rewrite The Phantom Menace.
Ken: Yeah, but let’s face it. Ewoks do suck.
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Better late than never, right
Was “Lost” on last week? We totally forgot. Actually, vacations coupled with too much news and not enough people added up to us not having time to do a recap last week. So I’ll make some quick observations about “Dead is Dead” and Thursday we will definitely have a post on “Some Like It Hoth.”
It’s a parlor game to figure out when Ben is telling the truth and when he is lying. He lies 90 percent of the time, but then that little bit of honesty creeps in to confuse things. I think he lied to Locke but was truthful to Sun. He really didn’t expect Locke to come back and it scares the crap out of him. He wasted no time trying to get Caesar to suspect Locke was up to something (poor Caesar). And he had plans to kill Locke again, plans that were shot to hell by Locke’s new body guard, Alex. Also, was it just me or did Ben get a little defensive when Sun said Jack must have lied. Ben has a soft spot for Jack.
I hope this means Locke’s days of being a sucker are over. Locke called Ben on every bluff. He knew Ben was more guilty about Alex, not about breaking rules or anything else. He also knew Ben was full of it when he said he knew Locke would be resurrected. Ben’s trump card has always been he knew more about the island than anyone else, but those days are over. Well, maybe. Guess it isn’t wise to count Ben out, he always has something up his sleeve.
It’s a safe guess that Ilana is working for Widmore. She and that guy who looks like Seth Rogen seem to be leading another assault team. What’s in that big box? A reverse time machine? Why did she seem not the least bit concerned about Ben? And what lies in the shadow of the statue?
It shouldn’t surprise anyone that Desmond fought off a bullet wound to beat up Ben. When someone is aiming a gun at your wife and child, pain becomes a secondary concern. But what state is Desmond in now? He’s not on the island, so he can’t heal quickly. Does Faraday come get him so he can heal on the island and stop this time-travel nonsense while he’s there? We’ll see.
I thought the special effects of the smoke monster showing Ben his memories of Alex were just a little cheesy. Just a little.
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Free will? It’s just an illusion
The subject of free will vs. destiny has been at the heart of “Lost” since the beginning. Everyone remembers the conversation Jack and Locke had in the finale of season one. Locke says the island brought them there because it’s destiny, Jack says he doesn’t believe in destiny, Locke says don’t worry, you will some day. We may have final gotten to some day.
The time-travel element has been driving home the point that the choices you make have all ready been predetermined. It’s not just “whatever happened, happened,” it’s “whatever will happen has happened, you just don’t know it yet.” When you think you’re taking fate into your own hands, you’re really playing right into fate’s hands.
Take Sayid. He thought by taking out Little Ben, he could change the future Ben creates. But, in fact, Sayid’s actions caused Ben to become the devious little monster.
Jack decided not to operate on Ben. By not operating, Juliet and Kate were forced to use drastic measures and to take Ben to the Others, which heals Ben sets into motion the steps that lead to Ben becoming the Others’ leader.
Why didn’t Jack operate? He says it’s because he is tired of fixing things, but I think he was hoping Ben would die. I’m pretty sure that was a look of disappointment on Jack’s face when Juliet told him that Sawyer and Kate were saving Ben. This is all a matter of interpretation, but I bet Jack thought if he didn’t operate, Ben would surely die. You know he has a big enough god-complex for that. Once again, fate wins. But maybe Jack really did think “whatever happens, happens and I’ll see whether he lives or dies, but I’m staying out of it.”
So what about Desmond? Faraday told Desmond that he was different, that the rules didn’t apply to him. Can he actually change the future? We may find out April 29 when a Desmond/Faraday episode airs.
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Yeah, yeah, ‘Whatever Happened …’
Chris and Ken aren’t even sure if “Whatever Happened, Happened” in last night’s Lost episode, but they try to wrap their collective heads around it in this review.
Ken: I know you’re not always enamored with Kate-specific episodes, even though she’s adorable to watch, but I thought this episode was really compelling, especially as the writers ran her story parallel to Roger “I wanted to be the best dad ever” Linus’ parenting struggles with young Ben.
Although I first wanted little Ben dead from Sayid’s shot, this works better in my mind. Sayid shot Ben in the stomach, which at least other TV shows I’ve seen have said that is a slow, agonizing way to die. I imagine after the hell future Ben put Sayid through, this was his way to pay him back … or maybe pay it forward.
Chris: Yes, this was a pretty good episode. I’ll give Evangeline Lilly props for her acting. Those scenes when she had to let Aaron go were touching. As for Roger, I guess it’s easy to become father of the year after you’ve seen your son with a bullet in his gut. But that’s one of the strengths of Lost, taking a character that was loathsome at first and making him sympathetic.
But the ending was fantastic. It was one of those where I kept saying, “please don’t end, please don’t end.” Now we have an idea how Ben becomes Ben. Once you are saved by the Others, you are always one of them. So what did Alpert do to save Ben?
Ken: I also wanted more Locke-Ben screen time at the end of the episode. “Welcome to the Land of the Living” indeed, as Locke told Ben. If I’m Ben and I wake up to see John Locke looking at me, I’d be thinking,”What does it take to kill you?”
First, Ben shoots Locke, in the gut no less, and leaves him for dead amongst the corpses of the Dharma Initiative folks he killed, but Locke survives. Then, he strangles Locke, dead. Puts Locke’s body in a coffin. Gets Jack to take Locke’s body back to the island and — viola! — here’s John “Jesus” Locke all resurrected and ready to talk to his killer.
I would be freaked out. I’d like to know what Alpert does to save young Ben but “take away his innocence.” What’s up with that? And you notice that Alpert was questioned about whether he should consult with Elle and Charlie first? Are we to assume he’s referring to Eleanor Hawking and Charlie Widmore, some 23 years after we last saw them on the island when the H-bomb was dangling in the air?
Ken: Those scenes with Hurley and Miles were fabulous. First, they were funny, as many Hurley scenes are. But secondly, they gave the viewers insight into possible questions with the whole time-travel stuff. I loved it when Hurley finally stumped Miles with the “but if Sayid shot Ben now, wouldn’t future Ben know this when they met years later?” questions. Miles sounded like Faraday the whole time, probably because he’s listened to the man for those past three years. But I would like to know what Faraday’s up to now, as he’s apparently off-island. Wouldn’t you?
Chris: The answer to Hurley’s question may have been “Ben DID know who Sayid was when he met him years later.” Ben always knows more than people think. Where the hell is Faraday anyway? At least we saw Locke this week.
Miles and Hurley are the new comedy team. We need more of them. What did you think of the “new Jack?” Kate says she doesn’t like him, but it seems like he made the right call.
Ken: Yeah, but is that the call Jack was supposed to make because of destiny? If Jack operates and saves Ben, then Kate and Sawyer don’t take him to Alpert and the Others. Doesn’t that put Ben on the deadly track that results in the annihilation of the Dharma Initiative? Kind of heady stuff that Jack could be the reason Ben becomes so cold-blooded.
Chris: Jack didn’t save Ben because he wasn’t suppose to save Ben. So he couldn’t have if he wanted to. Does that make sense? No, but I guess that’s the way it is. Sayid tried to change the future by shooting Ben, but in fact he probably turned Ben into the monster he becomes.
Chris: This must be the beginning of the rivalry between Widmore and Ben. Richard must have it in his head that Ben is suppose to be their future leader, which certainly angers Widmore and Elle. I guess anytime you come back from nearly being killed, it’s going to take your innocence, whether you’re saved by a surgeon or the mystery island mugambo.
I looks like the Sawyer-Kate thing is wrapped up. It seems he’s pretty much over her, and she didn’t come back to the island for him, but to find Claire. Doesn’t she realize Claire isn’t contracted to be in season five?
Ken: I enjoyed the added touch of having a Claire sort-of-lookalike be the one to find Aaron when he wandered off in the store. Kate made the right decision to give the boy to his grandmother. Now if only she can find Claire (who might be dead?) in season six.
I was a bit surprised that Sawyer is over Kate, but he should be. He has Juliet, and Sawyer has matured in those three years and seems to be a pretty decent guy now. Maybe someone who could adequately raise a daughter and give her a cute nickname instead of calling her Clementine. Ugh!
Chris: Yeah, Clementine is a pretty bad name. Sounds like she’s like her father, which means she’s conning kids out of their milk money.
Ken: I am already juiced about next week’s episode, particularly if we get a lot of Locke and Ben. My DVR cut off before the final promos were shown, and I was like “Aaarrgh!”
Chris: Man, you missed the best promo ever. It’s going to be a Ben episode. Ben says he came back to the island to be judged. It looks like we get a flashback to when he took Alex from Rousseau, too. It looks like Locke and Desmond will be in it, so it’s pretty much a can’t-fail episode. I hope.
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Does Jacob have a face?
We have to apologize for the lack of postings lately. It’s no secret things are tough at newspapers right now, and our lack of manpower has made it hard to find time to indulge our “Lost” obsession. Even getting our Thursday posting up is kind of a struggle. But we’re trying so we hope you stick with us.
Anyway, there certainly hasn’t been a lack of things to cover. I’m a little disappointed we haven’t said anything about Radzinsky. It was a pretty big reveal that he was the designer of the Swan Hatch, he wasn’t just one of the lowly button pushers. The season finale is titled “The Incident,” which is obviously referring to whatever led to the need for button pushing in the first place. Maybe the flashbacks will be in the Swan Hatch.
EW.com is reporting that actor Mark Pellegrino has been cast in a mystery role on “Lost.” It’s speculated this mystery role is Jacob. Apparently this actor played a nutjob on the show “Dexter,” so that’s a pretty good pedigree for “Lost.”
Speaking of nutjobs, I liked the casting of “Deadwood” alum William Sanderson as the torturous Oldham. This is the fourth “Deadwood” actor to take on a “Lost” role. The one with the biggest role is Kim Dickens, who plays Cassidy the mother of Sawyer’s child. Robin Weigart played Juliet’s sister Rachel in season three, and she is barely recognizable as Calamity Jane in “Deadwood.” Finally, there’s Paula Malcolmson, Trixie in “Deadwood,” who had a small role in season three as Colleen. She was shot by Sun. I highly recommend renting “Deadwood,” one of those great shows that unfortunately never was allowed an adequate conclusion. It’s especially good if you are looking to learn some new profanity.
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Little Ben pays for Big Ben’s sins
Ken Sury and Chris Oliver drop some Dharma truth serum and talk about “He’s Our You.”
Chris: OK, so they are putting that “you can’t change the future” thing to the test. Sayid the Killer busts a cap into Preteen Ben, opening a whole can of metaphysical worms on the situation. It was good to get a Sayid episode since he’s done little more this season than get hauled around like a sack of potatoes by Hurley and his dad. So how is Ben going to get out of this one?
Ken: I am really curious what this is going to do to the existing timeline. I don’t think we’re going to have one of those “Back to the Future” and “Star Trek” time loop-type events where instantaneously everything is changed. But something has got to happen.
Any chance that the island heals Ben a la Locke, so that young Ben gets the idea that he is the chosen one?
Chris: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, that the adult Ben with Locke and the others would suddenly grasp his heart and drop dead. Obviously that won’t happen.
I’m guessing little Ben isn’t dead. Someone will probably find him and he’ll be barely alive but somehow pull through. If that does happen, it will be a little bit of a cop-out. I’d kinda like to see what the repercussions of a dead Ben would be. I wonder where Sayid is going to go? Maybe he can find Rousseau and start a new life. Oh wait, she isn’t there yet. Damn time lines.
Ken: I certainly think Sayid can fend for himself in the jungle, but if he wanders out to the Hostiles/Others, he could be captured again. Sayid has certainly spent a lot of “Lost” screen time as someone’s captive. You’d think he’d be pretty tired of that.
His shooting of the young Ben was for me completely believable because he knew what Ben would one day be capable of. Makes you wonder how Ben might have turned out if Sayid could have snapped his dad’s neck and Sawyer takes him in. But then again, maybe Ben was destined to be a “bad seed.”
Chris: We had our first flashback episode of the season. The explanation for why Sayid was on the plane was pretty slick. I like how he asked if they could take another plane. Although, he should have known that girl in the bar was up to something. What is her name, Alena?
Ken: I really enjoyed that scene where Sayid sees the other Oceanic Sixers and wants no part of getting on Ajira 316. Can’t say I blame him there. According to imdb.com, her name is Ilana. How many times do these bar trysts end badly? I think Sayid just wanted someone to snuggle with.
Chris: I liked the interrogation scene when Sayid told them everything he knew about the Dharma Initiative. I wonder if Sayid’s revelations will lead to more changes, like they don’t call it the Swan Station anymore.
Ken: This really does open things up for the potential of full-blown, fruit-basket turnover. Will Dharma continue to move merrily along or will some other event wipe it out? We already know that time moves differently on the island, so the writers can really go nuts with this. I don’t think I can even hazard a guess as to what happens next. How about you?
Chris: I don’t know. The Dharma guys were pretty selective in what they believed from Sayid. If the drug made him tell the truth about what he knew about the stations, why would he be able to lie about not being a spy?
That was a strange “tribal leaders” scene when Dharma decided to kill Sayid. Where was Pierre Chang when that was going on? Radzinsky did threaten to call Ann Arbor. The real leadership must be at the University of Michigan still. I’m guessing the DeGroots.
Speaking of Radzinsky, he’s an annoying angry nerd. I’m glad he ends up a brown spot on the Swan ceiling.
Ken: Both Radzinsky and Phil deserve whatever is coming to them, though Phil is really more bark than bite. I was really surprised that Jack decided to “lay low” and let Sawyer call the shots for the time being. Maybe Jack’s just tired of getting blamed all the time when things go wrong.
I would still like to know where or when are Rose, Bernard and the rest of the Oceanic 815 island homeys. Wonder when we’ll see them?
Chris: What is up with the new chilled-out Jack? During the fire, when Sawyer says to Jack “Three years we had no fires, then you guys show up,” he couldn’t blame Jack, he’s just been cleaning toilets.
You know, these last two episodes were good, but they’re kinda losing me a bit. I liked it better when they are skipping through time and it was a little more adventurous. Now that they settled down, it’s a little staid. And we have no Locke, no Desmond, no Faraday, we need those guys back.
Ken: I’m somewhat of a similar mind-set on that, but I think we needed a couple of “slowed-down” episodes after those really intense ones. I think the runup to the season finale is gonna be break-neck (maybe literally).
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Jack just got served
Chris Oliver and Ken Sury think about, don’t react to, “Namaste.”
Chris: OK, we’re back. It seems like forever since “Lost” has been on. We’ve both been so busy we haven’t had time to think about it much, which is hard to believe. It was a pretty good episode, Not great, but it got the pieces lined up on the table, so to speak. I don’t know who had it worse, the co-pilot who got a tree branch through his breadbasket, or Jack, who was told his aptitude is only that of a workman, and who was schooled by Sawyer with his little Churchill analogy.
Ken: Jack does need a bit of a comeuppance, not that Sawyer doesn’t have some blood on his hands as well. I get the feeling that Jack doesn’t read very much. He seemed pretty clueless about the Bible when Ben related the Thomas the apostle story to him, chastised Ben for reading when they were on Ajira Flight 316, and then did the same to Sawyer at the end of the episode. Sawyer is right, however, you can’t just rush in and get things done the way Jack thinks things should happen.
Chris: You’re right. Jack does have a disdain for reading. Maybe he does deserve to be a workman. Jack reacts; Sawyer thinks. I guess Sawyer has always been a sort of problem-solver. He devised a scheme to get the guns in season two. He figured out the fish biscuit machine in the polar bear cage. Of course, his thinking hasn’t been very successful in the past. Maybe he’s better at it now. Must be the new glasses.
Ken: I kind of feel sorry for Sawyer and Juliet. They had a pretty good thing going in the cohabitation department. Now they’ve got Kate — who Sawyer had feelings for — and Jack — who Juliet seemed to have romantic ties with — back to mess with their bliss.
OK, now how creepy was it to learn that Amy and Horace’s baby is named Ethan? Didn’t it look like Juliet almost wanted to smother the child right there?
Chris: Yeah, maybe she realizes she shouldn’t have delivered the baby after all.
Let’s talk about poor Sayid, who is always in trouble. Now he’s in jail, and Little Boy Ben is there to bring him a sandwich. We know Ben has a fascination with the Hostiles (he’s already met Richard by this point, I’m sure). I think Sayid and Ben are going to form another alliance.
Ken: What a great bit of casting of the kid who plays young Ben! He’s even got the sweaty-looking, beady eyes down. I guess we’ll see some of Ben’s early initiatives in befriending the Hostiles/Others. I can’t remember when Ben’s annihilation of the Dharma Initiative happens. Obviously, not until he’s grown, so Sawyer’s got some time to figure out a plan, unless the whole “we’re not supposed to be here” gang throws off the timeline.
How much of Sayid’s life has been spent in a prison of one kind or another? The guy’s life stinks.
Chris: Back in the present day, or I’m guessing it’s the present day, Sun took out Ben and made it back to the big island with Lapidus. They both saw something big move through the trees before they ran into Christian. Do you think the monster is taking the shape of Christian?
Ken: We would have to assume its present day because of those outriggers and the fact that Ajira Airways water bottles will be found in them at some point. I’ve wondered for a while now whether Smokey takes the shape of certain individuals, like Christian, or Eko’s dead brother priest. But Christian certainly seems more of a guide to people on the island, whether it was John or now Sun.
My big question, though, is why didn’t Sun time-flash with Jack, Hurley, Kate and Sayid? She was one of the Oceanic Six. Did the island just not need her like it did the others? And how in the world is Sun going to go back in time if the donkey wheel is fixed?
Chris: That is a big question. My wife was saying the island is a cruel b*h for separating Jin and Sun like that. But if Sun didn’t go back in time, why is Christian telling her she has quite a journey ahead, implying she has to find a way to get back to find Jin? It seems like the island would have sent her back to 1977 if she was supposed to be there. There must be something else she has to accomplish along the way.
Ken: Perhaps Sun has to atone for some of her past bad actions, though whacking Ben in the back of the head with an oar wouldn’t be one of them.
Chris: So when are we going to see Locke again? Or Desmond? And what happen to Faraday? Sawyer says he isn’t there any more, but I took that to mean he had lost his mind.
Ken: I think Faraday went off-island, maybe to try to fix some of the things that will later go wrong, like turning that girl into a vegetable. Perhaps Daniel has come around to a thinking that he can change some aspects of the future.
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Ranking the season so far
For now good reason other than we have a week off, I’ll rank the season so far. Kinda tough because this has been a very balanced season. Every episode has been good, maybe even great, but none have been up to the level of “The Constant.” Anyway, here we go:
1. This Place is Death: Tough call between this one and “LaFleur,” but this one had an arm ripped off so the 12-year-old boy in me puts it at No. 1.
2. LaFleur: Sawyer finally finds his place in the world, he just had to go back in time to find it. Too bad Jack and Kate showed up.
3. The Lie: This one had two of the best scenes of the season: the fire-arrow attack, and Hurley telling the story of “Lost” to his mother.
4. Because You Left: Very strong opener that established the skipping in time problem.
5. Jughead: The only episode that Desmond really did much. Had a great reveal about Widmore.
6. The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham: The middle section of this was bland, but it had one of the best endings ever.
7: 316: History repeats itself as the Oceanic Six take another doomed plane to the island.
8. The Little Prince: Pretty good episode actually, but just not up to par with the others. The best part was finding out Jin was alive.
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Jack & Kate & James & Juliet
So is this the future of the “Lost” love quadrangle? If you didn’t catch it, I based the title for this post on Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice, the 1969 movie about two couples who consider … what euphemism should I use? … sharing each others company in the bedroom. And pardon the shoddy Photoshop job, I did it in a rush because I don’t want my bosses asking me why I’m wasting my time putting Evangeline Lilly’s face on Natalie Wood’s body.
The four of the them are in the seventies now. And the Dharma Initiative isn’t exactly uptight Squaresville. It has a hippie, communal vibe. We saw a Dharma guard sneak a girl in during his watch duty last week. Horace Goodspeed apparently ditched his first wife to have a baby with Amy. Besides, Kate has hooked up with both Sawyer and Jack, so all let’s left is for Jack and Juliet to get busy. They did have some hint of a romance brewing before it was cut short by Jack ditching her on the island.
Let’s hope not. Like I’ve said, I never cared about the relationship angle on “Lost,” but now I’d say I’m a full-fledged “Saw-liet.” Or “Jul-yer.” Man, those sound terrible. Who the hell came up with the concept of abbreviating couples by crushing their names together? Anyway, I hope Sawyer and Juliet make it, and maybe Sawyer will resist the return of the Kate-snake into the garden of Eden. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
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‘Lost’ in photo form
“Lost” is off next week, but we still plan to do a few posts. It’s not like they haven’t left us anything to chew on. In the mean time, I’ve put together this slideshow (click here) from photos ABC has released from the next episode, “Namaste.” They are kinda spoilery so be warned.
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The new sheriff is named ‘La Fleur’
Chris Oliver and Ken Sury jam out to Geronimo Jackson while breaking down “La Fleur.”
Chris: I have to say I prefer the “Sawyer and the Time Bandits” episodes to the others. They’re just more exciting. So Sawyer and Juliet decide to live together in the Dharma utopia, and they seem to be perfectly happy. How long until Kate and Jack screw that up?
Ken: Not long, I suspect. This did return us back to the character development and the emotional impact that “Lost” does so well. I liked nearly everything that happened in the episode. Seeing this new, take-charge, caring Sawyer who calls up just enough of his old con man skills to keep his “team” alive was fabulous. Kate and Jack are going to royally mess with Sawyer’s contented bliss. And I loved that scene with Horace right beforehand, where I think Sawyer was lying a bit (maybe to himself) when he said he couldn’t even remember what Kate looked like after three years.
Chris: Maybe in the next episode he’ll say to Kate “I’m sorry, do I know you?” I usually don’t care about the love story stuff. It didn’t matter to me whether Kate was with Jack or Sawyer, it was more of betting game. But I’m pulling for Sawyer and Juliet. Even though it’s a shame they both had to adopt hideous 70’s hairstyles.
Ken: Yeah, I enjoy the Sawyer-Juliet matchup. I’m going to sound like my wife here as I say, “I think she’s good for him.” But she does seem to have a solid and positive influence on him. As “LaFleur” he seems to have the lower-level security works scared to death of him, but he’s ultimately a benevolent dictator. I like this Sawyer.
Chris: I like that the Dharma symbol on his suit has a star in the middle. He’s the new sheriff in town. And he’s actually good at it. Sawyer and Juliet remind me of Benson and Stabler on “Law and Order: SVU.” This is “Law and Order: DI.”
Ken: But I don’t think Benson and Stabler are sleeping together. I enjoyed that exchange between Richard Alpert and “LaFleur,” how Sawyer quickly lets Alpert know that he is not part of Dharma, at least not at that point. Love to see those quick-talking con-man skills used for good.
Chris: Yeah the Richard scene was good. So is Richard really surprised by this time travel stuff or what? He has a good poker face. Anyone who has lived that long can’t be too surprised by anything.
Ken: I thought he acted surprised, but you’re right, who knows with him?
Chris: We finally saw the giant statue. I mean, we couldn’t count the toes on it, but obviously that’s the rest of the statue Sayid saw way back in season two.
Ken: Yes, the statue. Nice to come back to that. I was surprised that it was still intact in 1974. I figured it was already in ruins from long ago.
Chris: No, first they flashed to some ancient time before the last flash took them to 1974.
Ken: Oh, right. The flash that “was different” and felt like an earthquake, if I remember Miles’ comment about it. What did you take away from the whole “I see Charlotte as a young girl” scene for Daniel?
Chris: That statue looked Egyptian to me. I’m not qualified to know something like that, I’m just saying. Tunisia is close to Egypt, right?
I thought Charlotte was in her 20s when she died. This would put her at about 30 if she is a child in 1974. Oh whatever, I worry too much about those things. It seemed a little convenient that Daniel would see Charlotte, but that should start a new subplot. Also, we found out Dharma delivers babies off island, but the baby Juliet delivered was the first on island. Wonder who that baby is?
Ken: Didn’t Juliet and Sawyer look all Ozzie and Harriet lovey-dovey when Sawyer comes in and Juliet’s busy cooking up dinner? I did enjoy how Juliet was working as a mechanic on Dharma VW vans and then Sawyer pulls her out of “retirement” to save the day. That scene when she first steps out of the “Dharma Medical Center” and is crying, I was thinking that yet again, Juliet is thwarted trying to save a baby and its mother. Glad that wasn’t the case. I also wonder who this boy is going to be.
Chris: I have a feeling “Lost” fans are going to start hating Jack and Kate if they come in and try to change everyone. I can just see Kate telling Sawyer how he can’t stay there, he doesn’t belong, blah blah. They won’t hate Hurley though. You can’t hate Hurley.
Ken: Nobody hates Hurley. Unless maybe he ends up breaking that statue somehow.
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“Lost” is off for spring break
Here’s a couple clips from tonight’s episode. It looks like the flashes have stopped.
In case you don’t know, “Lost” is off next week, which is the price we buy for having two episodes on premiere night. It is also off April 22.
And here’s a very mild spoiler. In April there will be a Desmond/Faraday episode that is a companion piece to “The Constant.” Of course it’s called “The Variable.”
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You only get killed twice
Locke and Ben are like Charlie Brown and Lucy. Locke always tries to kick the football, and Ben always pulls it away. Locke has an unfortunate history of being easily manipulated. He was manipulated by his father multiple times, costing him his kidney and the use of his legs. You could say the island has used him, making him find the hatch, push the button, protect the island from Widmore’s invaders, and now go back to get the Oceanic Six.
Locke is a holy fool. He isn’t stupid, he just wants to believe in things so badly that he puts his skepticism on hold. Having your spinal cord healed will do that.
We can see how Locke and Ben are complete opposites in the way they tried to get the others to come back to the island. Ben used manipulation. Locke tried to pass on his own sense of faith. And, of course, Ben is far more successful. I thought the moments when Locke visited the Oceanic Six a little weak, but they were probably an accurate reflection on Locke’s personality (also, great acting by Terry O’Quinn).
Of course Locke has been far too trusting of Ben, and this last time it was fatal, temporarily. It may be frustrating to see Locke trust Ben, but it is understandable. Locke wants more than anything to know the mysteries of the island, and Ben knows the mysteries. Ben has the football. Or maybe Widmore has it. Like Locke, we don’t know which one to trust. i think we are tempted to believe Ben is the real bad guy and Widmore isn’t so bad after all, but you know it won’t be that simple. Perhaps Widmore killed the girl Ben liked.
So now Ben has killed Locke for the second time. And I don’t think he knows Locke will come back to life. I think Ben is in for a surprise.
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